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Are you ready to go down the rabbit hole? To visit a surreal world, where black is white and white is carrots?

A friend, Metacognician in Shanghai, describes the situation as follows: “Life is more absurd than movies. I've gone down the rabbit hole too, when it just becomes more and more strange and you wonder how that all is supposed to make sense.” I asked him if I should just embrace it. He answered, “Why should you ... change the universe?”

It started with a psychotic named Jim Kiraly who resides, we think, at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, California.

Jim Kiraly is a respected citizen. A churchgoer. A Vice President of Transamerica Corporation. And a violent abuser who tried to use an emergency anti-violence measure, one intended to protect battered women, to stop his victim in a wheelchair from writing a book.

Concise enough? :)

For attorneys: Jim Kiraly filed for CLETS against his son and victim, who lived 200 miles away, did not own a car, and was in a wheelchair. His son and victim was not asked to end communications. Jim had no (zero) specific and relevant allegations that were not perjury. But he turned down repeated offers of no-contact and a signed stipulation that gave him everything but CLETS. He insisted on CLETS if his victim ever once “discussed” him with third parties.

In the end, Jim Kiraly signed an agreement far weaker than the ones he'd been offered.

A review of Court paperwork and other materials will tend to confirm that Jim and other parties, including attorneys on all sides, committed multiple felonies, crimes, and faux pas. :P

The word “abuser” is stated here publicly and without equivocation. A formal offer is hereby made to reaffirm the word in writing and under oath. Attorneys will understand the significance of the point. In short, there is little terror of a threatened defamation suit on this side. Actually, we feel that such a suit will fit nicely up Jim Kiraly's abuser ass.

Jim has one son, Ken Kiraly, who invented the Amazon Kindle and is one of the leads at Amazon's secret Lab126. Another son, Tom Kiraly is one of the leads, a Vice President-CFO type, at medical insurance firms, including one of the largest, Humana Corporation.

These people and some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley legal circles have committed or are involved in multiple crimes.

For the next decade or two, we're going to explore the crimes that these people committed, the motivations and the denial involved, the background and histories that led each person to make the choices that they did, and ways to build upon what happened and move towards positive societal goals.

There's plenty to go over. These people committed or were involved in: Spousal abuse, child abuse, DDOS (a highly prosecutable violation of CFAA), extortion, perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury (a possible felony), false police reports, conspiracy to file false police reports (a possible felony), unlawful threats, barratry, defamation, malpractice, civil harassment, criminal harassment, abuse of process, and violations of SCCBA Professional Standards.

The point was to force Jim's oldest son and victim, me, to sign a gag order. I was in a wheelchair. I'd never made a single inappropriate threat against my abuser. I wasn't even asked to not to call anybody. But Jim threatened to put me in a violence database unless I agreed never to write about him.

I won the right to write, but I lost my home of 25 years, most of my possessions, my chances for retirement, everything. Everything but a realization.

I can make a difference. I can conduct research for legitimate and reasonable purposes, document what happened, and analyze the choices of the people involved:

Maggie told me that she didn't know what she could say to me about what happened. However, we have decades to work it out. It will be productive. I'd like to direct the attention of attorneys and other parties to the:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

Questions or comments are welcome. For technical notes and disclaimers, click here.

Free Downloads

The current free ebook is located at this link:

For details about the ebook, click here.

The Kiralys and their associates have tried to take down the sites before. Actually, they've committed multiple felonies in the process. It's no big deal, but to make a point, we're giving everything away for the low price of... well, free.

Here's a link to a ZIP file that contains a copy of the main Christ Follower site. It may be out of date but feel free to download the ZIP file and pass it around. The file is about 150MB in size.

Link for

The point? “The story is already out there, idiots. Keep it up and I'll demonstrate how something known as decentralized distribution works.”


131225 Wednesday — Chrismas with Twisted Time and Minnesota Fats

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131225. The posting schedule will be erratic for a while; possibly for months. However, it's not presently anticipated that things will stop.

If things do stop, and if it's believed that I may be AFK either temporarily or permanently, it's requested that people with access to the domains divide the domains, move them to different registrars, and clone the content to additional mirror servers. Masked Lua, please see me; I'd like to add you to the list.

A few days before Christmas 2013, I started the process of moving out of my apartment of 25 years. The Kiralys have taken my home. Final destination is not known.

I spent Christmas Eve in an unheated temporary room far away. The old apartment usually had not been heated either. However, I had neglected to bring a sleeping bag or a jacket to the temporary room.

On Christmas Day, I went to visit Twisted Time in San Francisco. He'd been taken to the same hospital where I'd found him in 2008. He seemed more robust this time. We talked for over an hour and a half. It was probably the longest conversation that we'd had in five years.

Twisted Time, to explain, is one of the last remaining associates that I have from the first half of a long and tiring life. He is valuable to me.

Today, he told me a anecdote about the past. I'd taught him, decades ago, how to do derivatives. He remembered the scene; this was in the Las Lomas school library. He added that when he encountered derivatives later on they seemed familiar as opposed to foreign.

Lessons, he said, can serve this purpose. To prepare the way to the future.

He picked up a mobile gadget and showed me via camera to his wife, who was miles away. I waved at her. When Twisted Time and I were associated originally, the idea of doing this scarcely existed outside of comic books.

Twisted Time was in physical pain. Talking, he said, helped with the issue. He seemed prepared to fight to recover from the latest problem. He'd like me to fight as well. I intend to do so but I'm so tired.

It's been so long since the Kiralys attacked and smashed my life. Took my life savings, my health, job opportunities, my possessions — even The Universal Anthology — and now my home.

It doesn't end there. The Kiralys — Jim Kiraly, Grace Kiraly, Tom Kiraly, and Ken Kiraly — are determined to take down these sites. If you're an EFF member who's interested, see the legal papers.

Kiraly associates have attempted to set up a Botnet; the Kiralys are involved with multiple felonies now. But they're wealthy and therefore they don't need to stop. It's as simple as that.

Twisted Time and I talked about the Kiralys and the choices they've made. He has one connection that may be useful in this context.

I went from the hospital in San Francisco to the home of Minnesota Fats and Maryland Slims in Silicon Valley. They had invited me to dine with them.

For various reasons, I had not eaten a meal since Thursday 131212. But the Fats and Slims household served turkey today and I had plenty of it. I even obtained a turkey drumstick. I don't think I've had a turkey drumstick at a holiday meal in years or decades.

Minnesota Fats and I talked afterwards about various subjects. Star Trek, webcomics, and writing. I discussed writing with his son Tristan and a friend of the family named Hubbard as well.

Hubbard said, “I need to work but I try to make time for writing.” I replied, “It should be the other way around. You need to write but should try to make time for work.”

I went to the Mountain View apartment after that and carried boxes out of the unit. Now it's time to sleep.


131204 Wednesday — Search Engine Remarks

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131204. This post is intended for developers interested in SEO.

Something unexpected happened on the Google Search front this week. I posted a seven-page legal document in JPEG format. It's just text. But Google put all seven pages close to the top of Google Images for two of the people involved, Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly.

For reference purposes, here are links for the searches discussed in this post:

For the Jim Kiraly search: click here
For the Tom Kiraly search: click here
For the Michael Bonetto search: click here

As of 131204, the legal document occupied a reasonable chunk of the top few rows for the two Kiraly searches. However, it may have dropped off of the front pages since then.

If the legal document isn't visible on the Kiraly results pages, and you'd like to see it, click on the following link and scroll down:

Kiraly Cases Two Year Anniversary

The results aren't too unusual. I assume that, to Google, an image of text is still an image. But I wouldn't have expected all seven pages of a legal document to make it to the top of Google Images immediately.

I didn't do any special SEO for the post. I simply wrote about the legal document and included the images. Google says that authors should focus on content as opposed to SEO. This is correct, but I suspect there's more to the results in this case.

There's a possible clue. Some of my images are starting to show up in the Google Images search results for Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton. Michael is the attorney who drafted the legal document. However, it hasn't shown up on his results page. I believe that I may know why. We'll see how results work out in the future.

The moral, regardless, is probably that Google's advice is sound. Web authors should focus on content. Present the facts and this will earn respect. In the search engine world, at any rate. The real world is more complicated than this.


131130 Saturday — Coder Status

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131130. A brief Coder Report.

Things are ordinary, but they're not
I fall sleep early
I can't make it into bed

I talk with difficulty
I talk with ease
I know what to do

Sometimes I can't walk
Sometimes I can't stand
But I play Soccer

On Thursday Thanksgiving 2003 I worked for about nine hours. Then I visited Minnesota Fats and Maryland Slims for two hours. I looked at a PC that one of their cats had destroyed. The cat had spilled cola on the motherboard. Bad Kitty!

The Fats and Slims children are in their 20s. Two daughters, a future graphics artist and a teacher in training, had hoped that I could fix the PC. I promised to speak with Israel, somebody who knows about such things.

One of the Fats and Slims children, a son, might become a writer. He asked me about the status of the Kiraly Cases.

The would-be writer and I had talked months ago one night at midnight. The full impact of what the Kiralys were doing had struck me. There were physical issues as well.

A doctor had communicated with me. He didn't need to, but he did. I had never met him, but he was one of the ten percent. The ones who define God.

No, Michael Bonetto and other pro-abuse attorneys, I do not remember the doctor's name or his facility. Nor do I possess a record of such information. You will not be able to harass the doctor. But I can say that the doctor was somebody with a conscience.

“I am sorry that I am not a good resource,” he said.
“You are a good resource,” I replied.

The same night, I think, though I am not sure, I spoke with the would-be writer. I told him, “The storm is upon me.” Then I slept, though there was no bed.

On Thanksgiving Day, the would-be writer and I spoke again. I brought him up to date on the Kiraly Cases. I explained the meaning of the phrase, “Pyrrhic Victory”. It is the type of victory where one survives but is not certain that one is still alive.

I fell asleep shortly after I left the Fats and Slims household on Thanksgiving. Breathing shock. The next day, Friday 131129, I worked. On the way home, I visited DNA the 82 year old attorney. We discussed his inventions for about an hour. Some of the inventions have the potential to change the world.

I fell asleep shortly after that. Breathing shock. Nearly didn't make it into bed this time.

I woke up at about 3:00am on Saturday 131130. Wrote blog posts for hours. Went to play Soccer after that. Two hours. But I didn't go into breathing shock even once.

I worked on Saturday afternoon. Which brings us up to date.

I chatted just now with Shiing Shen, who says that he feels “mathy” today. To which I reply:

Blessings on thee, and Integrals,
You say that you feel
“Mathy” today
But “Mathy” is real

Math is about facts exacts
Remember this, kid
Facts are what there is
Facts are not from to be hid

Something Shiing Shen is working on
Shiing Shen Math


131130 Saturday — Riane Update

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News: There's apparently a wedding in the family. For more information, click here.

131130. When I posted the missing August 2012 document that's further down, I found that Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton had provided me, without any request on my part, with information related to my niece, Riane Kiraly.

Riane Kiraly, who is Tom Kiraly's daughter A public photo of Riane Kiraly is posted to the right. The use of the photo is believed to fall under Fair Use guidelines. People who disagree are free to file DMCA or similar actions. They will find me attentive to the law as it applies.

Note: As I understand it, DMCA filings should be made by the rights holders involved. In this case, it appears that the rights holder might be, not the subject of the photo, but the entity that published the copy of which this is a copy.

It should be noted that DMCA attempts by parties who are not entitled to file them might leave such parties liable for penalties or, depending on various factors, prosecution. And, of course, if I receive a DMCA notice, I have the option of filing a counter notification. In which case, as I understand it, the rights holder might need to obtain an attorney and seek a court order.

Additionally, it should be noted that, where hosts in countries other than the U.S.A. are involved, DMCA notices per se may not be applicable. Parties who wish to file DMCA notices in such cases may need to substitute the notices and/or procedures that are applicable under the rules of each of the countries in question.

For additional remarks on this subject, please click here.

I am interested, for Legitimate Purposes, in people who are connected directly or indirectly to the Kiraly Cases. Note to attorneys who may be curious: Will you be so kind as to visit the following link for a List of Legitimate Purposes? Thank you!

Click here for List of Legitimate Purposes

Riane Kiraly is directly connected to the Kiraly Cases. She is listed as a Protected Person. Additionally, as near as I can tell, Riane's Father Tom Kiraly tried to make a remark that I made regarding his Daughter Riane into a cornerstone of the Kiraly Cases. The remark concerned Riane's theft of a dollar at age seven.

The fact is that Riane's Father Tom Kiraly is not the brightest candle on the table. He is an odd choice for Vice President of medical corporations such as Humana and Sheridan Healthcare (click here). But Riane struck me as sharp. So I'm curious about some questions that may never be answered.

Did Riane Kiraly decide for herself? Riane Kiraly is an adult. Whose decision was it to list her as a Protected Person? Did she agree to go along with her Father's lies and perjury? Did she believe the malarkey that her Grandfather James Kiraly, an actual abuser, spewed? Or did Tom Kiraly simply add Riane's name to the list?

If this was Tom Kiraly's decision, why did the b*tch that was my Brother do it? The putative reason for the felonies that Tom Kiraly is involved in is a desire for no-contact. But this person did not even ask for such a thing.

When Tom's abuser, and my abuser, Jim Kiraly of Pismo Beach, California and Walnut Creek, California, started to make threats against me, Tom invited me to call him. The fistula that is Tom Kiraly of Texas, Kentucky, and Florida never once said that he did not wish to speak.

Did James Kiraly hurt Riane Kiraly and did this affect her judgment? No, I don't believe it. When Riane was a child, James ordered his wife and victim Grace Kiraly to shut up about things that Tom Kiraly and his wife Karen Kiraly did. Grace told me about the issue at the time.

James feared that if Grace offended Tom or Karen, Riane and her siblings would not be allowed to visit James and Grace any more. Grace “bit her tongue” and remained silent. And James clearly cared about his grandchildren. Ironic.

Though I am absolutely, and without equivocation, in the process of “gathering information” related to the abuser Jim Kiraly and the person known as Tom Kiraly who is involved in multiple felonies, the answers to questions of this type are a matter of personal perspective. They are primarily in peoples' heads.

Therefore, I have no way to obtain them. By the way, to attorneys who may become involved in actions proceeding in either direction, I can back up claims of perjury by the person who is known as Thomas Evan Kiraly.

I am pleased to see that Riane is doing all right. And I'd like to refer attorneys and other interested parties again to the Legitimate Purposes List at this link. Your attention to the Legitimate Purposes List, a list that is intended to be representative and not necessarily comprehensive, is appreciated.

Based on publicly posted information, Riane Kiraly has attended Indiana University. I don't know if she has graduated or not. She has earned multiple scholarships; this is not surprising. Unlike her Grandmother Grace Kiraly, Riane is comfortable around Black people. Not “safe” Black people such as one is introduced to at Church. The “diverse” kind.

Riane is sociable and appears to be kind. She takes after Karen Kiraly's side of the Family. A nice quote from Riane:

And, it would be particularly nice if y'all would take a moment to encourage any freshmen or other new students you have been getting to know to come. Offer a ride or to walk with them; an invitation will mean more coming from a new friend than a general invitation.

More questions Is this type of thought qualified? Do Riane's feelings about altruism work the same way as those of the Kiraly Family? Are people to be shown respect unless they are designated as “different” in vague and unspecified ways?

Is “vague and unspecified” sufficient justification to smash a life? Is it all right to lie under oath for the purpose? During the Holocaust, would Riane Kiraly have helped the Jews? Or, as the mindset of the Kiralys might have dictated, put them in the ovens?

Grace Kiraly told me a year or two back that Riane was dating a young man. But I don't know if wedding bells have rung yet. I don't see a wedding announcement in Google, so probably not.


131130 Saturday — Message for Michael Bonetto

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131130. When I posted the missing August 2012 document further down, I was reminded of Michael Thomas Bonetto, Family Law Attorney, of Hoge Fenton, San Jose, California. I thought I'd add a message for him.

Michael T. Bonetto
STATE BAR #252742
Sixty South Market Street, Suite 1400
San Jose, California 95113

Dear Michael,

The August 2012 settlement “offer” is included further down. For what it's worth, I don't believe I ever saw the document until shortly before Thanksgiving 2013. John H. Perrott of Thomas Chase Stutzman elected originally not to show it to me.

I see that the August 2012 version is similar to the November 2012 version; the one you tried to stop me from posting. After that, you tried to stop me from posting your takedown of a takedown. Good times.

But I see that the first version is weaker than the second one. That's odd. If we weren't going to accept the first version, period, what was the point of making the second version worse ?

At Christmas 2012, John Perrott told me something that might apply. He said that abusers, such as your client Jim Kiraly, expect their victims to fold. If somebody fights back, abusers aren't quite able to grasp it.

By the way, as usual, note that there is no equivocation here. I hereby state explicitly and publicly that Jim is an abuser. Where is the defamation suit that you mentioned, Michael?

For others: If you'd like to read about Michael Bonetto's attempt at a takedown of a takedown, click here. It's humorous in some respects. For his misrepresentation of the Law as it applied to the matter, click here instead.

The August 2012 and November 2012 documents are both positioned as no-contact agreements. Michael Bonetto, are you still pushing the idea these days that the Kiraly Cases are about no-contact? Even though Jim Kiraly didn't even ask me not to call after Grace Kiraly visited me? And Tom Kiraly invited me to call?

You and I ought to talk, Son. I'd like to understand what was in your head. It will also be interesting to see if Hoge Fenton backs you long-term on this t*rd.

Here's the thing. Michael Bonetto, you were proficient with the thespian parts at the April 2013 hearing. You pretended to shudder as you made dramatic hand motions, you put exactly the right emphasis on the word “evasive” when you told the Court “he was evasive”, and you even put a quaver into your voice at one point.

Good Lord, a quaver? That didn't come from Law School. Does Hoge Fenton actually pay for classes in Abuse of Process?

I don't pretend to understand the shifts in body language and tones of voice mentioned here completely. This is new to me. I noticed this type of thing starting at age six. But, truth be told, for decades, it rarely occurred to me that this was information. Something that could be processed.

I'm blind to you and others in some spectrums, wide open to some types of attacks, but, funny thing, I do have some small abilities. To the best of my recollection, everything I ever said about the way that I perceive things, and what I can do with information, was accurate.

In other words, I told the truth. I generally tell the truth. By the way, I try to keep promises as well.

The important thing, though, is that some of your work on the Kiraly Cases was amateurish. I told your Emeritus Counsel right off the bat that your pleadings were slipshod. He didn't contest the point.

I am not saying, Michael Bonetto, that you are incompetent. However, I feel that the words “amateurish” and “slipshod”. do apply. Be honest. You didn't even try to prepare properly for the February 2013 Kiraly Cases Deposition, did you?

Your lead client, Jim Kiraly of La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California, was a violent abuser who wanted to put his non-violent victim in a violence database. You had nothing that you could even accuse the victim of. The Deposition was your one chance to come up with something. And you fumbled the ball that your clients had trusted you with.

At the Deposition, you mumbled about hacking. I watched you as you did so. You had no idea of what you were talking about. I had to correct you repeatedly regarding basic issues.

If I understand correctly, your clients spent thousands of dollars on the Deposition, but you obtained nothing new for them except for silly bits of sleight of hand.

For example, you suggested that my websites were “addressing” Protected Parties. You hoped that I wouldn't catch it. But even a lowly Pro-Per is able to spot something like that; I fixed it in the official edits.

The Deposition is going online, of course, with the official edits plus commentary. We'll see if people agree that it does, or does not, include evidence of badgering, Abuse of Process, or unprofessional conduct.

It's my understanding, though I make no representations of facts here, Michael Bonetto, that you may even have attempted to cheat your clients Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly out of thousands of dollars. By the way, I'd be pleased to state the basis for this remark under oath.

I gather that your clients suspected you were padding their bills. Is it true that you charged them as much as $100,000 ? Were they pleased when they learned you'd obtained nothing for them that they couldn't have gotten for free?

Michael Bonetto, you took on a frightened, physically ill, autistic, abuse victim with no money and a lazy attorney, John Perrott, who relied on his own untrained client to do some of the paperwork. You apparently charged your clients about $100,000. And you settled for less than your opponent had offered you previously.

Yes, you are a powerhouse attorney. Jim Kiraly will be an excellent reference for you. You will show this case proudly to future clients for years to come.

You even risked your clients' cases to take a silly swipe at my speech difficulties — in writing. If I remember correctly, you backpedaled on that issue in a Declaration to the Court. But you did a sloppy job even of the backpedal. By the way, we'll come back to that Declaration in the years to come.

Michael Bonetto, what were you thinking when you took the Kiraly Cases to begin with? Was this Natasha Parrett's decision? Did you volunteer?

As a related note, I assume that it was normal for Natasha to disappear after the start of the cases. There are some parts related to the dynamics of your firm, though, that don't add up yet.

By the way, who was the young woman that attended the April 2013 hearing with you? It didn't appear to be Natasha though perhaps I've got faces mixed up. And what was the odd body language between the two of you about? It was formal, but when the two of you were talking in the waiting room, there were signs that you might be potential lovers.

Michael, let's step back. Let's look at the day when you made your decision. I've tried to understand but it's difficult.

A violent abuser decides to file an emergency anti-violence action against his autistic victim, who lives 200 miles away, doesn't own a car, is in a wheelchair, and has not even been asked not to communicate. In fact, the abuser's wife has gone to visit the victim after the period when the victim supposedly made non-consensual calls.

Let's throw in a Brother who wants to file the same emergency anti-violence action. The Brother lives 3,000 miles away. He has never even hinted that he doesn't wish to communicate. But, sure, an emergency anti-violence action against somebody in a wheelchair who has not even been asked not to communicate makes perfect sense.

Perhaps the best part:

You ask your potential clients for specifics. For anything that the person you're supposed to attack has done. Even an inappropriate “threat”. Just one “threat” and you're good to go.

However, your clients can't give you even one specific accusation except for alleged non-consensual calls the year before. Calls between the abuser's household and the victim's household since then have been primarily from the abuser's household to harass the victim.

Attorneys who are not idiots might pause to reflect at this point. To weigh risk versus reward.

“No problem,” says Michael Bonetto. “Abuse of Process is what Hoge Fenton is all about. If there is a violent abuser to be protected, we will buckle down and find a way.”

I've been curious since the start about what your Emeritus Counsel Philip Hammer thinks. But I gather that he is away or has moved on; his voicemail presently goes to Maggie Desmond.

Maggie Desmond was the one who was working with you to force me to be filmed, right? You had nothing, so you hoped I'd make odd body movements due to my neurological differences. Body movements that could then be mocked and characterized as “threatening”.

Michael, you are not an especially good person.

Michael Bonetto You can put a dress on the t*rd, Michael, and try to make it dance. But, in the end, the more you embrace it, the more you're likely to smear on yourself.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)


131130 Saturday — Kiraly Cases Two Year Anniversary

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131130. Today is the second anniversary, in one respect, of the start of the Kiraly Cases. On the Saturday after Thanksgiving 2011, the abuser Jim Kiraly threatened me with the police over my book. And today is the Saturday after Thanksgiving 2013, two years later.

To mark two years of unpleasantness, I've posted a previously missing seven page legal document from August 2012. To read the missing document, scroll down.

Marvel at the mysteries therein Well, actually, it's tedious legal stuff. But there's an interesting story behind it. A story about bad people. Powerful, vindictive, and dangerous.


The August 2012 document consists of a cover letter written by Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton, attorney for Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly, plus six pages of demands that were made by the Kiraly Family.

The document is the first version of a gag order that Jim Kiraly, my abuser, tried to force me to sign a few months later, circa November 2012. One year after the start of his attacks circa November 2011.

In theory, demands by plaintiffs should be moderated over time. The idea is to negotiate so that expensive court actions can be avoided. However, in the Kiraly Cases, Jim Kiraly increased his demands over time.

And, every step of the way, James Francis Kiraly, the abuser at the heart of the cases, demanded things that no Court in the U.S. would or even could order. “A Priori” censorship of Free Speech. Prohibitions on consensual discussions with third parties. Starting in November 2012, takedowns of websites and Internet domains.

I never saw the August 2012 document. My attorney, John Perrott of Thomas Chase Stutzman in San Jose, California, indicated later on that he considered the Kiraly Family's demands to be excessive. He didn't see a reason to show them to me.

As a side note, this seems odd, because John did show me the November 2012 version, which went further.

I asked John recently for the missing August 2012 version of the gag order. To read it, scroll down. Disclaimer: The pages below are not represented as anything but a copy of a document that I was sent in response to the request mentioned above.

The copy is presently in JPEG form as opposed to PDF or text. I will convert it to both PDF and text when time permits so that Google will be able to find it. Eventually, everything about the Kiraly Cases, past, present, and future, will be in Google.

Read the August 2012 document carefully. It doesn't have the clauses about taking down my websites that were added later. But it does have the key elements that Jim Kiraly focused on until the end.

My abuser's goal was to charge me $5,000 or even put me in jail if I tried to “gather information” for my book or to “discuss” him with other people.

To be clear, I never signed the August 2012 document. Or the November 2012 version. Or anything that limited my rights to “gather information” for my book or to “discuss” the Kiralys with the world.

I'd have agreed to some limits on research related to the book. But Jim figured his wealth was all that was needed. That he could simply shut me up. He went too far. And he lost.

I'm told that Jim Kiraly spent $50,000 to $100,000 or more on his ludicrous quest to put a gag order on me. But he ended up with agreements that were much weaker than I'd have signed for free.


And I'm not bound by the weak agreements that I did sign. I hereby state publicly, as I have stated before, that I repudiate the agreements in question.

Reasons include, but are not limited to, multiple felonies that the Kiralys appear to have committed or that they are connected to. Including, but not limited to, highly prosecutable violations of CFAA (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act).

On a related note, it is my hope to locate a reporter with a camera who may be interested in an unusual story. And to coordinate things properly with attorneys, with police departments, and possibly with law makers. If things can be arranged appropriately, the Kiraly Cases will be brought to a reasonable conclusion at last.

Regardless, I intend to “gather information” for multiple Legitimate Purposes. I am enthusiastic about the prospect. Note: Attorneys and others who wish to review the List of Legitimate Purposes are respectfully invited to click on the link below:

Click here for List of Legitimate Purposes

And I sure as Hell am going to “discuss” the Kiralys and others with anybody that I choose to speak with for years to come.


For those who aren't familar with the Kiraly Cases, here is a summary. If you've followed the cases, you can skip this part.

I was abused, autistic, in poor shape by age 12.

Fast forward about 40 years. By mid-2011, I'd been through a decade that was less fun than usual.

I'd lost the ability to walk for weeks at a time; no medical care. Made enough money in the stock market to retire, long after the dot-com boom, but lost it in the Crash of 2008.

The physical issues got worse. I ended up trapped on my living room floor for two weeks in mid-2011. No food. I nearly lost my right hand; the fingers were filled with a sort of pus. Some of them were many times normal volume.

An acquaintance killed himself at this point because I wasn't able to keep a promise.

For those in IRC and IRL who know std::vector, he is from the mid-2011 period. It took me months to recover and regain the ability to walk. During this period, I tried to help people to find jobs. I made friends with some of them. std::vector is one of this group.

During my recovery, I spoke more with my Parents; the abuser Jim Kiraly, former Vice President of Transmerica Corporation, and Grace Kiraly, a self-absorbed pseudo intellectual who talks a great deal about Jesus Christ but despises Blacks and the poor in general.

These two people were difficult to speak with. It was out of the question to discuss some subjects with Jim. I focused on safe subjects such as how he was painting his house or what he might do with his computer.

And Grace... Grace Kiraly had perceptions and views that were, to put it mildly, ugly. She was a caricature of a human being.

But every conversation with Jim was positive. And I felt that Grace and I were making progress. Neither of these people ever asked me not to speak with them. Not once. And by Thanksgiving 2011 I felt ready to take the next step.

I asked my Parents to work with me on my book.

Jim Kiraly was furious. He assumed that the book was going to focus on his past actions. He threatened me immediately with the police. And he went to the police circa the next business day.

I contacted the police later on regarding filing criminal charges against Jim Kiraly. Based on what they told me at the time, they'd dismissed Jim as a crank.

A month or so after Jim Kiraly went off the deep end, Grace Kiraly came to visit me, unannounced and without permission.

After that, Grace Kiraly phoned me repeatedly to offer her thoughts on a number of subjects. Her calls were not welcome but she felt that she was doing me a favor. So I tolerated them. Grace called me and not the other way around. This was proved months later by Discovery Evidence.

In the Spring of 2012, I phoned Grace's Church, with her full permission, to discuss the role of Christ Followers in the world. And I spoke with the volunteer group that Jim had told me about regarding the nature of altruism.

Jim Kiraly grew increasingly enraged. He made escalating threats. I sent Jim and Grace postcards, with the permission of the police, telling them that the threats would not work. My book was going to continue.

Jim responded by filing a CLETS action against me, with assistance from my Brothers Tom Kiraly, Vice President of Humana Corporation and Sheridan Healthcare, and Ken Kiraly, lead engineer at Amazon Lab126 and inventor of the Amazon Kindle.

CLETS is a hole in the legal system that can be exploited by a wealthy abuser such as Jim Kiraly. It is not normal civil litigation or criminal prosecution.

Essentially, a wealthy violent abuser can use CLETS to put his non-violent victim in a violence database. Even if there has been no violence or any threats of violence. All that is required is lots of money. Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly had lots of money. They wrote checks and assumed that that was the end of the matter.

The Kiralys said that CLETS, including the violence database, was needed to keep me from contacting them. But, in 2012, this filth didn't even ask me to refrain from contact. Instead, there was threat after threat against me.

In the odd world of CLETS, though, facts don't matter. If an abuser is wealthy, he can use procedures intended to help battered women as he sees fit.

In the Kiraly Cases, Jim insisted that I sign a gag order related to my book or go into the CLETS violence database. Even though Jim and Tom are the only ones in the situation who committed violence after childhood or threatened it.

To read the November 2012 version of the gag order, click on the following links:

November 2012 gag order demanded by abuser Jim Kiraly: PDF version

November 2012 gag order demanded by abuser Jim Kiraly: HTML version

Note that the gag order said I could not “discuss” family members with third parties. And that it could have been used to impose a $5,000 penalty for a single conversation with a newspaper reporter. There is also an attempt in it to take down my websites or domains.

The best part, though, is that my violent abuser Jim Kiraly wanted me to agree to go into the CLETS violence database if I violated the gag order. I was never, under any circumstances, going to agree to this.

And I didn't agree to it. It cost me everything. But I am free to “gather information” about this person and everybody connected, directly or indirectly, to the Kiraly Cases. And to “discuss” the Kiralys and others directly with hundreds of people over time.

Missing August 2012 version of gag order:

The original version of the gag order is posted below. It doesn't have the parts about websites. Michael Bonetto added a takedown attempt to the next version. But read this version carefully. The parts about “gathering information” and “discussing” the Kiralys are there.

So is the section about not obtaining the addresses of Protected Persons; i.e., Kiraly Family members. That part seems silly since the same document includes Kiraly Family addresses. But I'm too slow to understand the subtleties of the logic involved.

This document was positioned as a no-contact agreement. However, in 2012, no party to the cases asked me not to contact them. In fact, Grace Kiraly came to visit me right in the middle of all of this.

This proves that the parts in the gag order about no contact are a smokescreen. The Kiraly Cases were, and they remain, about nothing but stopping the book.

The Kiralys managed to smash up my life “real good”. But, in the end, they failed. They spent a huge amount of money but my Free Speech rights are safe. And I intend to exercise them.

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131126 Tuesday — Thanksgiving Letter to Minnesota Fats

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131128. On Thanksgiving Day 131128 I spent two hours with Minnesota Fats and his wife Maryland Slims. This is a couple that I've known for about two decades.

I introduced Grace Kiraly to the couple in the 1990s. I thought that she'd find it interesting to meet them as all three seemed to be “conservative” and “religious”. I had not yet learned that it is pointless to assess people based solely on perceptions of this type.

Grace is about hatred, pride, and self-justification. Minnesota Fats is about doing what is possible.

This is a message to Minnesota Fats. It is an updated version of a letter that was sent originally on 131126 and revised on Thanksgiving Day 131128.

Dear Minnesota Fats,

1. Thanksgiving 2013.

I've had nowhere to “go” for most holidays for decades, though there have been exceptions.

Charlie Baldwin and his lover Li Ping invited me for Thanksgiving or Christmas one year. Charlie was a business associate of Monty Swaiss and I. I don't recall if you met Monty Swaiss or not, but he worked closely with Ken Young and myself during Ken's tenure at IPT.

I paid attention to holidays sometimes. Didn't I spend New Year's Eve at the end of 1999 with you and your family? I seem to remember that we sprayed Silly String (tm) or something similar in the living room.

We also waited with anticipation for satellites to fall out of the sky due to the dreaded Y2K Bug :P With apologies to They Might Be Giants:

And now hear the roar that none can ignore
The thunderous clatter of splintering metal and lives that are claimed
And none who have witnessed all
Can think of a nobler cause than perishing in the satellite rain

Note to those too young to remember: People made a fuss in 1999 about the possibility that a computer problem known as the Y2K Bug might cause a lot of older systems to fail. I don't think many people really believed it would happen but concerns were expressed. And, as I understand it, one or two satellites did fail.

I remember that one aspect of Thanksgiving and Christmas seemed important to Old World relatives: Food. They remembered years when food was difficult to come by and they took meal-oriented holidays seriously.

If I remember correctly, Grace Kiraly and I spent one Thanksgiving decades ago in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with my Grandparents Ivan and Olga, my Uncle Anatol, and Anatol's wife Ercie.

There was a great deal of food. The meal was prepared partly by my Grandfather Ivan's former lover. I don't know if Grace knew about that issue. People, meals, relationships, sometimes gifts or arguments; holidays can be complicated.

Most of the time, I didn't see holidays or similar occasions as a big deal. I remember that, on one occasion in the 1990s, I called Nina Kerechanko to wish her either a Happy Holiday or a Happy Birthday. I don't remember the exact occasion. It's odd to lose pieces of the past like this.

Nina Kerechanko was the mother of George Kerechanko on the blog. The man who I saw as the only biological older brother that I ever had. And who offered to testify in the Kiraly Cases on behalf of my abuser Jim Kiraly.

Nina was also the grandmother of Russell Kerechanko, whose death this year at age 30, reportedly from a drug overdose, may have led to the Botnet that Kiraly Family associates are running in Dallas, Texas.

Nina sounded tired on the phone. So I got into my car — this was before the accident in 2000 that led me to stop driving for 13 years — and I drove a couple of hundred miles to see her. It was probably the last holiday or similar occasion that I spent with biological family members.

Nina died a few years later. So I think that was the last time I saw her. I am glad that I visited.

For some of the Thanksgivings in the 1990s and 2000s, I purchased cans of Turkey Chili to celebrate the occasion. I probably went to the buffet mentioned on the blog once. But, in recent years, it hasn't seemed important. For most Thanksgivings, I think I've simply fasted, reflected, and focused on Code.

I had planned to decline your invitation to stop by today. But I'm glad I changed my mind and accepted.

2. Photo of me.

You pointed out that one photo of me on the blog is disjointed. Pieces don't fit together. This is how the photo came out originally. It was due to some type of glitch in DNA's camera. I thought the fact that an accident could happen and that the results could turn out so well regardless was interesting.

3. Eternal Flame. Yes, the “Eternal Flame” song that you mentioned is familiar:

“For God wrote in Lisp code
When he filled the leaves with green.
The fractal flowers and recursive roots:
The most lovely hack I've seen.

And when I ponder snowflakes,
never finding two the same,
I know God likes a language
with its own four-letter name.”

4. Two Songs.

You joked as follows, “Page 42, you should not conceal your anger at your mother. Please, let it out. :-P” You are apparently referring to the post where I speak of the “wild ecstasies” that my Mother Grace Kiraly experiences as “her lying soul ... wanders inside Lucifer”. The post is reflective. I believe that what it posits is correct. Grace is part of a Song.

I am literal, but I do use metaphors. Are there different levels to reality? Is it possible that the things which metaphors speak of are true?

There are two opposing forces. There is a Song for each force. I know the nature of the Songs. Last year, I started to feel the rhythm of what I think of as the Song of God. My post about the other Song, the Song that Grace Kiraly is part of... It is simply poetry of sorts. But it is also true.

5. Evolution.

If you proceed through the blog, you'll notice that older pages are less polished. This is due to two factors. My writing has been improving over Time. I'm told that recent pages flow better. And the Kiraly Family did nearly kill me twice after they started their attacks two years ago. If I remember correctly, Saturday will be the two-year anniversary.

By the time that you and I discussed options related to my possessions, there wasn't much of me left. I wouldn't have survived the move. By the way, thanks again for your assistance.

I remain tired. Actually, I'm more tired than ever before. I still work overnight sometimes. But usually I'm “out like a light” early. I sit on my floor in front of a keyboard and I chat a little with online friends. Then I can't sit up and it's time to sign “/away”. Recently, I've had difficulty pulling myself up into bed.

There has been evolution, though. I'm unable to speak out loud well when I'm startled or frightened. I'll always be like this. But the creative side of me, the side with a heart, is back after decades. My full intelligence has returned as well. I believe that there has been some type of integration.

I'm afraid of some things. But I'm not afraid of these people any longer. If you retain any media contacts from the period when you were involved with government, and if a reporter with a camera can be found, I'd like to demonstrate the fact in a legitimate and reasonable manner.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)


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