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Are you ready to go down the rabbit hole? To visit a surreal world, where black is white and white is carrots?

A friend, Metacognician in Shanghai, describes the situation as follows: “Life is more absurd than movies. I've gone down the rabbit hole too, when it just becomes more and more strange and you wonder how that all is supposed to make sense.” I asked him if I should just embrace it. He answered, “Why should you ... change the universe?”

It started with a psychotic named Jim Kiraly who resides, we think, at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, California.

Jim Kiraly is a respected citizen. A churchgoer. A Vice President of Transamerica Corporation. And a violent abuser who tried to use an emergency anti-violence measure, one intended to protect battered women, to stop his victim in a wheelchair from writing a book.

Concise enough? :)

For attorneys: Jim Kiraly filed for CLETS against his son and victim, who lived 200 miles away, did not own a car, and was in a wheelchair. His son and victim was not asked to end communications. Jim had no (zero) specific and relevant allegations that were not perjury. But he turned down repeated offers of no-contact and a signed stipulation that gave him everything but CLETS. He insisted on CLETS if his victim ever once “discussed” him with third parties.

In the end, Jim Kiraly signed an agreement far weaker than the ones he'd been offered.

A review of Court paperwork and other materials will tend to confirm that Jim and other parties, including attorneys on all sides, committed multiple felonies, crimes, and faux pas. :P

The word “abuser” is stated here publicly and without equivocation. A formal offer is hereby made to reaffirm the word in writing and under oath. Attorneys will understand the significance of the point. In short, there is little terror of a threatened defamation suit on this side. Actually, we feel that such a suit will fit nicely up Jim Kiraly's abuser ass.

Jim has one son, Ken Kiraly, who invented the Amazon Kindle and is one of the leads at Amazon's secret Lab126. Another son, Tom Kiraly is one of the leads, a Vice President-CFO type, at medical insurance firms, including one of the largest, Humana Corporation.

These people and some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley legal circles have committed or are involved in multiple crimes.

For the next decade or two, we're going to explore the crimes that these people committed, the motivations and the denial involved, the background and histories that led each person to make the choices that they did, and ways to build upon what happened and move towards positive societal goals.

There's plenty to go over. These people committed or were involved in: Spousal abuse, child abuse, DDOS (a highly prosecutable violation of CFAA), extortion, perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury (a possible felony), false police reports, conspiracy to file false police reports (a possible felony), unlawful threats, barratry, defamation, malpractice, civil harassment, criminal harassment, abuse of process, and violations of SCCBA Professional Standards.

The point was to force Jim's oldest son and victim, me, to sign a gag order. I was in a wheelchair. I'd never made a single inappropriate threat against my abuser. I wasn't even asked to not to call anybody. But Jim threatened to put me in a violence database unless I agreed never to write about him.

I won the right to write, but I lost my home of 25 years, most of my possessions, my chances for retirement, everything. Everything but a realization.

I can make a difference. I can conduct research for legitimate and reasonable purposes, document what happened, and analyze the choices of the people involved:

Maggie told me that she didn't know what she could say to me about what happened. However, we have decades to work it out. It will be productive. I'd like to direct the attention of attorneys and other parties to the:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

Questions or comments are welcome. For technical notes and disclaimers, click here.

Free Downloads

The current free ebook is located at this link:

For details about the ebook, click here.

The Kiralys and their associates have tried to take down the sites before. Actually, they've committed multiple felonies in the process. It's no big deal, but to make a point, we're giving everything away for the low price of... well, free.

Here's a link to a ZIP file that contains a copy of the main Christ Follower site. It may be out of date but feel free to download the ZIP file and pass it around. The file is about 150MB in size.

Link for

The point? “The story is already out there, idiots. Keep it up and I'll demonstrate how something known as decentralized distribution works.”


150124 Saturday — Letter to John Perrott

Tags: family law john perrott

Attorneys referred to in this article include:

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Thomas Chase Stutzman
STATE BAR #69452
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Michael T. Bonetto
STATE BAR #252742
Sixty South Market Street, Suite 1400
San Jose, California 95113
(408) 947-2468

150124. This is a public letter to John Perrott. Note: The rights holder to the photo used below is believed not to be John Perrott.

People who are interested in DMCA and related issues are invited to click here. For a letter to John Perrott that goes into more detail regarding the use of photos online, click here instead.

Subject: John Perrott's Mother

John Perrott, Family Law Attorney John, Hi! First, a belated Happy New Year.

I've been traveling off and on recently. This may continue. Austin, Texas is one of the destinations on the list, but more research is needed.

So, things remain busy.

This has affected legitimate and reasonable steps related to a prosecutable crime that John Perrott, the lazy Family Law attorney who is employed by the alleged sexual predator Thomas Chase Stutzman, and who is hereby asserted publicly to be prone to malpractice and/or violations of professional standards, committed recently.

But I wish to indicate my willingness, with all respect that is due, and in the spirit of kindness and of friendship, to discuss and work through a topic that John Perrott has chosen, for reasons of his own, to make an issue of; specifically, the topic that is listed as the subject of this letter.

Such parts of the discussion as I wish to make public will, of course, be made public. In every possible venue. For decades to come.

John Perrott, Jim Kiraly, Tom Kiraly, and the truth The truth won't be denied. In situations such as this, it seeks out dark tunnels where light is needed, enters them, and proceeds forward until there is a culmination of joy as the light is revealed.

I trust, John, that the legitimate and reasonable point is clear to you and to others.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

P.S. John, I want the electronic evidence that you're withholding, the evidence that you plan to destroy; and the paperwork that I've got a right to as well.

Additionally, you owe me explanations for the things that you've done. The explanations are needed for the book.

If you like, we can discuss the current issues over Pho. Under the circumstances, you'll need to be the one to pay for the meal.

There's a supplemental message to you included in my article regarding Tom Kiraly's current birthday. You're invited to read the message.


150124 Saturday — Tom Kiraly Birthday

Tags: birthday cases kiraly tom

Attorneys referred to in this article include:

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Michael T. Bonetto
STATE BAR #252742
Sixty South Market Street, Suite 1400
San Jose, California 95113
(408) 947-2468

150124. It's Tom Kiraly's birthday. The celebrations shall commence.

Dental History

My teeth and gums hurt. They've hurt for a few years now. It's distracting.

I'm likely to lose some of the teeth. There are pockets in some of the gums. That may lead to other issues. But it's all right.

As my Brother Tom Kiraly, possibly CFO of Hanger Inc., shouted at me, three years ago, “There are services! Services!”

I'd called Tom, after scheduling the call in advance, to wish him a Happy Birthday. But our abuser, Jim Kiraly of 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California, Vice President of Transamerica Corporation, had told Tom that I'd demanded money from him for medical care.

So, when Tom Kiraly asked me how I was, and I said that I'd been ill, Tom was afraid that I might ask him for money. He freaked out. Shouted at me as I slid to the floor and begged him to stop.

I was easily frightened at the time. Not any more.

I sometimes wonder if the Kiralys ever understood the irony of their “choices”. What I was, has been burned away. What is left, is different. “Be careful of what you wish for. You might get it.”

Subsequently, Tom Kiraly lied under oath about the call. He asserted that the call was “stalking” even though it had been scheduled in advance. This fact is sufficient, in and of itself, to demonstrate that Tom committed perjury.

As a related note, both perjury and conspiracy to commit perjury may be treated as felonies.

Jim Kiraly, believed to be past Treasurer of St. Johns Lutheran Church, had lied, of course, to Tom Kiraly. When Grace Kiraly, Jim's wife and victim, had asked me if I wanted money, I'd told her, aghast, “Absolutely not.”

Facts didn't matter. In the end, the Kiralys spent perhaps $100,000 trying to force me to sign a gag order. I wasn't supposed to be allowed to talk about any of this. They wanted to charge me $5,000 per phone call to newspaper reporters.

To heck with that.

I never signed the gag order. Instead, after fighting for a year, I signed something that I co-wrote, and that I expect to shove, as a colorful metaphor, up the abuser Jim Kiraly's and the b*tch Tom Kiraly's asses.

So, I won. Except, I lost my life savings. My home of 25 years as well. Since then, I've done without things that most people take for granted.

Such as teeth that don't hurt.

Article continues below the photo. For a large version of the photo, click here.

Tom Kiraly Blossoms

What did Tom Kiraly blossom into?

This photo was taken circa 1967 at 217 Gerry Court, Walnut Creek, California. The subject is Tom Kiraly, also known as Thomas Evan Kiraly, possibly VP of Sheridan Healthcare and CFO of Hanger Inc.

There seems to be a small boy in the background. It might be Ken Kiraly of Amazon Lab126. Or the youngest Kiraly Brother, Scott.

For decades, I thought that Tom was smiling in this photo. Upon review, his expression is more subtle.

Tom Kiraly lied under oath and his Brother Ken Kiraly is a sociopath

Where is Tom Kiraly?

Jim Kiraly abused Grace Kiraly, Tom Kiraly, and Ken Kiraly It's possible to make something positive come out of what Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly did.

The Kiralys used a loophole in the law to come after me. The loophole needs to be closed. The public should know that violent abusers can use emergency anti-violence measures to silence their victims.

Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly have committed felonies Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly and the others who committed or have been involved in crimes related to the Kiraly Gag Order Cases should be prosecuted.

Whether or not this proves to be practical, the facts surrounding the Gag Order Cases should be made as public as possible.

My life, what was done to me decades ago and in 2012, might be useful to anti-abuse efforts and to advocates interested in autism, bullying, religious fundamentalism, and denial.

So, I'm “gathering information”, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, related to every person involved in the Kiraly Gag Order Cases.

Note: Michael Bonetto and John Perrott, I trust you understand that “every person” includes every person who committed crimes, or was involved in crimes, during the Kiraly Gag Order Cases or subsequently.

Tom Kiraly and Jim Kiraly will be discussed Research will include speaking on a consensual basis with parties who feel that they can comment on the decisions that each person involved made.

Where does denial come from? How can it be addressed? If I speak with enough people, and share enough information about the Gag Order Cases, perhaps I'll find out.

Attorneys and others interested in the matter are invited to click on the link below:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

Recently, I've been puzzling over Tom Kiraly's location.

There are indications that Tom and his Wife, my Sister in Law Karen Kiraly, sold their residence in Glenville, Kentucky, last year. I'd guessed that they'd moved to Austin, Texas, a city that I expect to visit myself for business reasons.

But there's no confirmation so far of the move.

To the extent that Tom's past locations are known, people who've known him there are invited to help me determine the facts.

Are there neighbors or associates located near the following addresses who'd like to comment on the crimes that Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly committed, or on spousal abuse or child abuse in general?

I'd like to talk to people who can help me to make sense out of all of this. And, in Time, I'll find them.

There are three past addresses that I'm not sure about: 3960 North Story Road, Irving, Texas. 425 East Harwood Road, Euless, Texas. 500 South Ocean Blvd, Boca Raton, Florida. These may or may not be valid.

Tom and Karen lived at 2600 North Whitehaven Drive, Colleyville, Texas, from about 1994 to 2008. This is where they raised their children, Riane Kiraly, James Kiraly (named after Tom's abuser), and Michael Kiraly.

Tom seems to have been at 1300 Cardinal Drive, Louisville, Kentucky in 2014. This dovetails with his short-lived stint as Vice President of Sheridan Healthcare. I'm not sure if Karen was with him or not during this period.

Tom and Karen owned the house at 3611 Glenview Avenue, Glenview, Kentucky for about two years. It was supposedly sold in April 2014. I believe that the couple may have moved to Austin, Texas, but this needs to be confirmed.

Kiraly Korporations

The Colleyville address is the one listed as the original base of operations for a couple of corporations that Tom Kiraly formed years ago.

This includes a corporation, Texas Domestic LLC #801183522, that lists Tom's and Karen's three children as the only members. Tom and Karen are managers as opposed to members. I assume that this entity is a tax dodge of some type but I haven't checked this with a CPA yet.

As of January 2015, the apparent Kiraly tax dodge lists the 3611 Glenview Avenue address in Glenview, Kentucky as the corporation's current home. This is interesting, because Tom and Karen supposedly left that address nine months ago.

For more about the corporations, click here and here.

Article continues below the diagram.

Tom Kiraly Kid Korporation

We don't need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system. — Marco Rubio

Tom Kiraly's corporation includes Riane Kiraly, James Kiraly, and Michael Kiraly

Criminal Case

Tom shows up in public records related to a criminal case. But there are no details. I can't tell what happened.

I've considered the possibility that the records are related to the civil case that Tom initiated against me. But the new case is labeled as criminal, which didn't apply to the Gag Order cases. Additionally, Jim Kiraly, who was involved in the Gag Order cases, doesn't show up in this context.

There's an Offender ID listed for Tom Kiraly. But I don't know if Tom was accused of a sexual crime, or if it was a minor infraction, or if this is an error of some type. Here's what I found. Is anybody able to shed light on this?

Jurisdiction: Unknown
Case number: 540656
Offender ID: CG381777070956535085954065619820804

Wedding Bells

One open question has been resolved during recent research into what Tom Kiraly has been up to.

Tom's Daughter, my Niece Riane Kiraly, did in fact marry Eric William Holub. The two of them are living together, I trust happily, in a Madison, Wisconsin apartment. So my guess about which Eric Holub was involved was correct.

For previous remarks on the subject, click here.

Birthday Thoughts

What is Tom Kiraly's birthday about? The birthday of the “cool kid” who faded as he aged into a silly non-entity ...

A non-entity who managed to take away my life savings, the home where I'd lived for decades, and even my books.

Abuser Jim Kiraly and his victim Grace Kiraly took everything Most of the books that I'd had since age 10, gone. Along with the bookcases I'd had for 30 years, most of my clothes, half of my notes on family history, most of my computer equipment, some of my photos, and my chances of a family, a real family, at last.

Chances to help people, some who had depended on me, gone too.

... the non-entity who will be treated today, perhaps, to a fine birthday meal, as he wears fine clothes and thinks fine thoughts ...

What does Tom Kiraly think about? Does he think at all? This is the heart of it. I think that people usually don't think.

Tom Kiraly, Michael Bonetto, and John Perrott lack a moral sense Some people are bovine. Beasts of the field. There's little introspection or reflection.

No guilt or shame except for the type of guilt or shame that a dog feels. Guilt or shame related to pack rules.

Without introspection, there is no purpose. An animal may have a purpose. But it is not the one to assign it.

Tom Kiraly, Ken Kiraly, and Jim Kiraly deserve a sensible gift This will be my gift to Tom. And to the others involved in the Kiraly Gag Order cases. I'll be the one to decide their purpose.

In this sense, Jim Kiraly, Grace Kiraly, Tom Kiraly, Michael Bonetto, John Perrott, and the others belong to me.

My decision is... these people will contribute to social good. For the rest of their lives and beyond.

Tom Kiraly parties down
A man is born alone and dies alone; and he experiences the good and bad consequences of his karma alone; and he goes alone to Hell or the Supreme abode.
Criminal Tom Kiraly, Son of abuser Jim Kiraly, in party mood


150124 Saturday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest

150124. Space travel is better than gravel. Here are a few Moontest screenshots.

The license for the screenshots is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

Lava Processing Center

The creator of this center says, “This is my super computer. I made it so I can study lava activity.”

Tom and Ken and I used to build this type of thing out of wood blocks and Lego®. Times have changed.

The yellow booth is part of a Travelnet; i.e., a teleportation network.

Ken Kiraly and Tom Kiraly are not believed to be Minetesters

Pizza H*t® on the Moon

Sure, why not?

I don't know if abuser Jim Kiraly and victim Grace Kiraly go to Pizza Hut

Artificial Sun is Loads of Fun

This is a small artificial sun floating above the Moon. Watch your step when visiting, it's hot.

The Sun of Truth will shine on Jim Kiraly and Michael Bonetto

Lunar GameSt*p®

People still need games on the Moon.

Tom Kiraly, Jim Kiraly, and Grace Kiraly are games players

More Lava is Not Written in Java

This is another view of the Lunar Lava Processing Center.

Grace Kiraly came to accept Jim Kiraly's treatment over time


141224 Wednesday — Higgins Through Time and Space

Tags: pets

141224. It's time for a cat.

The license for the photo below the post is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Higgins.

Higgins Through Time and Space
Higgins is more trustworthy than John Perrott or Jim Kiraly


141224 Wednesday — Candy Bat Christmas Tree

Tags: cases christmas kiraly minetest

Attorneys referred to in this post include:

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Thomas Chase Stutzman
STATE BAR #69452
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

141224. I'm traveling.

I'd planned a Christmas post, suggested by Vibhishana, related to the Count of Monte Cristo. Vibhishana told me that he'd read the book and asked me for thoughts about revenge, a central theme of the work.

The essay on revenge will need to wait. There are other matters to attend to. But I've helped to set up a Christmas tree in the virtual world.

The Old Coder's Christmas tree
Below is shown
Crazy Ginger mod skills did hone
I gave a Crazy Ginger sapling to Candy Bat
Candy Bat promptly planted that
Up a Christmas tree grew
Now the tree story is through

Minetest hackers: To get your own copy of the Crazy Ginger sapling, which grows into a Christmas tree complete with lights, use this link. Note: When you plant the sapling, leave plenty of room for it to grow.

The license for the Christmas Tree screenshot below the post is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

So, it's Christmas Eve now. Close to the end of the year. And there's been a lot to think about just in the past four weeks:

  1. As a few friends know, I was assaulted after Thanksgiving by a transient. The experience was surreal. But I learned useful lessons during the aftermath. And it will be interesting to compare and contrast the transient with Jim Kiraly.

  2. The Kiralys of St. Johns Lutheran Church and 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California, apparently with assistance from their friend in Dallas, Texas, tried DDOS again.

    98,295 connections from multiple subnets. Not especially impressive. However, impressive isn't the issue when it comes to prosecutable felonies.

  3. John Perrott, a lazy Family Law attorney who works for alleged sex offender Tom Stutzman at Thomas Chase Stutzman, slipped up this month and left me a possible opening for future legal actions.

    I'm pretty sure John is aware that he goofed. However, he seems reluctant to comment.

  4. I'm traveling. On Christmas Eve, I find myself meeting new people, young and old, each with a story, each a manifestation of a Song.

  5. I've learned, as documented in a recent post, that my Brother Tom Kiraly of Hanger Inc., the one who committed perjury in the 2012 abuse coverup cases, might have headed to Texas, a State that I might visit again for business purposes.

    Tom Kiraly might be near Dallas or Austin, which are on my itinerary, but I'm not sure yet. If Tom and I end up in the same city, after years, was the force that determined this fate, or was it random chance?

  6. Charles Artisan, a painter friend, may be seriously ill. He's requested that the issue not be discussed in the future, but what his situation says about the meaning of life is on my mind.

  7. Skittles, a young writer, has returned. He's been through a bit. But, then, so have most of the majority in America. The people who outnumber the ones in power but have little say in the outcome of a rigged game.

  8. Minnesota Fats and Maryland Sims have had a grandchild. I was invited to see the new baby, but was not able to go.

  9. Blue Dream's Grandfather passed away. Blue Dream has my condolences.

  10. The doctor who diagnosed my arthritis at last, after a decade of pain, pain referred to by the harlot Grace Kiraly as a “choice”, has learned that he has late-stage pancreatic cancer. He'll be dead soon.

    Mortality, the transient nature of people and things, is ordinary. But if one loses track of Time, the fact that there are endings is still a surprise.

All in a few short weeks. There is understanding to seeks. And there are decisions to be made.

Practical decisions. To paraphrase Neil Gaiman, “I couldn't decide to be an angel again. Innocence, once lost, can't be regained.”

OldCoder tree this year stands proud without fear
This Christmas tree was grown from a Christmas sapling generated by a Crazy Ginger mod and planted by Candy Bat.
Tree of friendship better than Grace Kiraly tree of hatred


141211 Thursday — John Perrott Saga Continues

Tags: cases kiraly

141211. This is a new letter to John Perrott, Family Law attorney, written after research related to threats that he has made and prosecutable crimes that he has committed.

As a note to other attorneys, I don't consider this letter or anything in it to be confidential.

For more information about John Perrott's law firm, Thomas Chase Stutzman, visit this link:

Attorneys referred to in this letter include:

Thomas Chase Stutzman law firm steals from its clients John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Michael T. Bonetto
STATE BAR #252742
Sixty South Market Street, Suite 1400
San Jose, California 95113
(408) 947-2468

John, I need to focus today on helping people who have been waiting. However, I must say, after further review, that you may have “stepped in it”.

Law Offices of Thomas Chase Stutzman 1. As you are not responding to legitimate and reasonable responses to your threats and to your involvement in one or more prosecutable crimes, attempts may be made to serve you, at one or more physical addresses available in the public record, for multiple legitimate and reasonable purposes, with copies of correspondence.

John Perrott, Family Law, is ignorant of the law 2. Your suggestion that people are not allowed to post publicly photos of others without permission is comical.

You're invited to review the usual outcome when attorneys and other people in power have attempted to go this route.

Thomas Chase Stutzman The primary remedy for the use of photos without the permission of the subjects of the photos seems to be, for subjects residing in the United States, an action known as DMCA. And the use of DMCA can be problematic.

For example, it appears that rights holders may need to be the ones to initiate DMCA actions. The subjects of photos are not, in many cases, the rights holders. There are also jurisdictional issues, for example, in cases where photos are hosted in countries that are not signatories to the applicable treaties.

And, of course, there is the issue of Fair Use, an issue that might fall outside your area of experience but is well worth understanding.

For more information on DMCA issues, click below:

Notes on DMCA

Thomas Chase Stutzman 3. Your suggestion that people are not entitled to put addresses of others online is false as well. For this issue, it's about context. I have the right, as an example, to post some documents such as Court filings online whether or not they happen to contain addresses.

As you will recall, I did exactly this during the Kiraly Gag Order Cases and, although Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton had not hesitated to commit Abuse of Process and violate the SCCBA Professional Standards that his own firm had written, even he didn't question my right to do so.

It's not an absolute right as, in the United States, I might be ordered to redact things by the NSA or other entities above the level of a lazy and incompetent Family Law attorney, John Perrott of Thomas Chase Stutzman, who's had a childish temper tantrum and arguably committed a felony.

But, in general, it comes down to context, including the question of legitimate and reasonable purposes. And, in the current situation, a situation that involves multiple inappropriate actions, prosecutable crimes, and, arguably, felonies committed by multiple parties, it is raining legitimate and reasonable purposes.

Everywhere that one looks, in the Kiraly Gag Order Cases, one finds influential people committing prosecutable crimes. It's quite an eye-opener.

This sort of thing is possible, and even common, because people don't talk about it. I'm going to talk about it, though, John Perrott. Now and for decades to come.

For the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list, click below:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

4. You believe that citizens of the United States, including but not limited to biographers, reporters, and writers otherwise engaged in projects that enjoy protection under the laws of the United States, do not have the unquestioned right to speak with, on a consensual basis and for legitimate and reasonable purposes, whoever they may wish to speak with.

Even if it is business associates or other associates of parties who are engaged in the concealment of prosecutable crimes and who'd prefer that the facts do not come out.

Your belief is mistaken.

5. You also seem to be unaware of a principle known as Free Speech. If your education in this area is lacking, you're advised to look into it.

6. And, although people involved in the Kiraly Gag Order Cases take the notion of telling the truth under oath lightly, it actually is the law.

You're advised to remember this.

Thomas Chase Stutzman John Perrott 7. Whether or not you, or other parties involved in the Kiraly Gag Order Cases, are arrested and prosecuted, I reserve the right to document the crimes that you've committed and to publish, post, blog, analyze, discuss, or otherwise distribute the facts involved, in public venues of any type or in direct discussions with any groups or individuals that I decide to speak with.

ANY groups or individuals, John Perrott, subject to basic parameters, such as consensual interactions in some cases and Free Speech in others.

Thomas Chase Stutzman Family Law Edit: Dropped redundant occurrence of the word “that”.

8. I trust that these points clarify the situation. And that you recall a metaphor of a fundamental nature I've used in the past.

I stand by the fundamental metaphor. And you, of course, sit on it.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

P.S. Your continued failure to turn over or even discuss the paperwork and electronic materials that you're withholding is noted.


141208 Monday — Still More Perrott

Tags: cases kiraly

141208. John Perrott, Family Law attorney, has been threatening me again. It appears that he may now have committed a crime in the process. Here's my response.

For more information about John Perrott's law firm, Thomas Chase Stutzman, visit this link:

The Attorneys referred to in this letter include:

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

John, the repetition of points related to consent is puzzling. You've been notified, and don't seem to be contradicting, that I don't require your consent to exercise rights that I possess under the laws of the United States.

Your decisions are odd and cast doubt on your mental state. I feel that it may be appropriate, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, to speak with others who may be able to comment on the decisions and mental state in question.

As you yourself pointed out in the past, on one of the rare occasions that you invested time and energy in something, in America, it's unlikely that somebody can be barred from consensual communications with third parties.

I refer you to your own legal writings.

In short, I have the right, provided that legitimate and reasonable purposes are involved, to speak on a consensual basis with third parties regarding your actions. Essentially any third party at all subject to basic parameters.

As you seem to be suggesting that I don't possess this right, and taking into account the fact that you may now have committed a crime in an attempt to discourage me from the exercise of this right, it is appropriate for me to notify you that I'm certainly going to exercise it.

In short, I'll be initiating consensual discussions with any third parties who wish to discuss things with me on a consensual basis and who are able to comment based on knowledge that they possess of facts, events, or interactions.

Consensual discussions may include in-person interviews for the book, round-table exchanges in online forums, requests for comments from attorney groups or organizations, and interactions in all venues that I'm legally entitled to participate in.

I'll be exercising my Free Speech rights as well.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

P.S. I want the documents and electronic materials that you're withholding.


141208 Monday — Another Letter to John Perrott

Tags: cases kiraly

141208. This is a follow-up letter to Family Law attorney John Perrott.

For more information about John Perrott's law firm, Thomas Chase Stutzman, visit this link:

The Attorneys referred to in this letter include:

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Edited for length and clarity on December 9, 2014 and changes sent to John Perrott.

John Perrott, P.S.

You seem to be under the impression that I need your consent to exercise rights that are afforded to me under United States Law.

I do not require your consent.

In the interests of reducing the confusion that you're under, I'm willing to demonstrate the extent to which your consent is not required.

If a demonstration is required, I'll exercise my rights to free association and consensual discussion with such parties located in any city of the Union as it is convenient for me to speak with.

And I'll post such Free Speech based on consensual interviews as I deem it appropriate to post. Or distribute such Free Speech through other channels such as YouTube, snail-mail, email, Church newsletters, Letters to the Editor, and paper flyers tacked to fences.

Actually, wait... I'm going to do all of that anyway. Never mind.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)


141208 Monday — Letter to Attorney John Perrott

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141208. This is a copy of a letter to Family Law attorney John Perrott.

John Perrott's Family Law services can't, regrettably, be recommended without reservations. Actually, he'll mislead you, drive up your costs, and try to “manage” you.

If you get to know his staff, and they trust you, ask them about this.

As a note to other attorneys, I don't consider this letter or anything in it to be confidential.

The Attorneys referred to in this letter include:

Thomas Chase Stutzman
STATE BAR #69452
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

John H. Perrott
STATE BAR #213080
1625 The Alameda, Suite 626
San Jose, CA 95126
(408) 294-4600

Dear John, Hi.

1. Regarding ongoing inappropriate and possibly unlawful threats that have originated with your firm and with you personally, if it proves to be necessary, I will, with sadness, look into the feasibility of criminal charges against you.

The most appropriate charges might be related to conspiracy, which, as you may be aware, can be treated as a felony. But this is only one possibility.

2. Please note, and I say this with all of the respect that is due to a charlatan, that Tom Stutzman and you have been threatening me for months.

3. This is connected to the documents and electronic materials that you're withholding from me. Your protestations that the documents, as opposed to the electronic materials, are readily available to me are, to use your own word, “bogus”.

You've ignored, repeatedly, multiple specific and relevant points that were raised on August 1, 2014. I'll be happy to demonstrate in the appropriate venues the simple fact that you've lied.

4. The fact that you yourself have committed or are involved, directly or indirectly, in multiple crimes or inappropriate actions is part of the situation. This fact, inconvenient as it is for you, is not going to go away.

5. The information processing that has been alluded to is connected to legitimate and reasonable purposes. The legitimate and reasonable purposes have been documented publicly.

Kindly review the legitimate and reasonable purposes list, the location of which I have reason to believe is known to you. If you'd like to point out, subsequent to your review, errors on my part, I'll be most attentive.

To read the list in question, please use the following link. Thank you:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

Put your comments in writing, John. Be advised, by the way, that my analysis of your comments may be posted publicly. My analysis may conveyed to the “police” as well.

6. Here are two additional points that are relevant to your threats:

* I have the right to post publicly (a) correspondence of any type from you to me or (b) legitimate and reasonable correspondence from me to you.

* I also have the right to interview, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, any adult person on the planet who speaks with me on a consensual basis.

Do you contest these two points? If so, contest them in writing.

7. Every step as things proceed will be documented publicly. And I think we're at the stage where your peers need to follow along, formally at Bar Association levels and informally in other venues.

8. Regarding the local “police”, I expect to visit Silicon Valley soon. I feel that it may be appropriate for me to stop by to speak with them myself.

Shall I do so?

9. As a related note, it seems possible that the facts of this situation, taking your threats into account, might be sufficient to bring the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the ACLU, and other groups into the picture. If this is not the case at this time, I feel that it may be true in the coming year.

I trust that your Holiday preparations are in progress and offer you early Seasons Greetings. If you don't celebrate Holidays, no offense is intended by the offer.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)


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