What is this site?

Haggis Hell is the personal weblog of Robert Kiraly, aka OldCoder, a software developer for 40 years. It started due to an unusual pair of gag-order cases that ran from 2012 to 2013, but it collects threads of different types now.

Pieces will move around to different pages, but the short links listed on Twitter should continue to work regardless.

191128 Thursday — Do you know this couple?

191128. Document update.

To read the current version of the Solvang, CA general inquiry document, click on the following link:


This is the document referred to by the Solvang, CA rhyme in the next section. It's a draft that is still at an early state.

The current iteration is 32 pages in length. It's expected to reach, eventually, 100 pages; i.e., it'll be somewhat longer than a similar but less organized document that's been distributed to Pismo Beach residents and organizations in the past.

Technical notes:

Snail-mail copies are being sent in stitch-bound booklet form. Hand-delivered copies are printed single-sided and single-stapled in the upper-left corner.

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Solvang, CA: Do you know this couple?
Jim and Grace Kiraly
191125 Monday — Solvang, Land of Tooth and Fang

191125. Solvang, Land of Tooth and Fang.

1. Three approaches are here
Abuser Jim Kiraly is to be held dear
Facts all day and all night
Surely it's a comical sight
2. To imagine that that which is
Is as significant as cola fizz
3. Deliveries to Jim's neighbors have started
Reality will not be parted
If Jim of natural causes plans to go
Here's the tale of woe
It won't be with honor
4. The goal is Solvang, CA to saturate
Saturate is great
With a story
Full of glory
Using courier, emailed & snailmailed
Three approaches can't be derailed
5. The 2nd courier visit took place the other day
Here's a photo much hooray

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Jim Kiraly Solvang Delivery
Jim Kiraly Solvang Delivery
191026 Saturday — Grace Kiraly Birthday Card

191026. Grace Kiraly Birthday Card.


1. I succeeded in getting a belated birthday card for Grace Kiraly delivered on October 16, 2019. The card went, however, to Grace's husband and abuser Jim Kiraly, so it's far from certain that Grace per se received it.

The exercise was worthwhile, regardless, as both of the couple are confirmed not to have passed away, as of October 16, and to be resident at unit 21B, 636 Atterdag Road, Solvang, CA as of the date in question.

The address is disclosed publicly for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws.

What do Jim's neighbors at 636 Atterdag Road, and in Solvang, CA, in general, think or feel about the colorful character that walks in their midst?

What do church-goers think or feel?

For legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, inquiring minds would like to know. And inquiring minds have the snail-mail addresses of perhaps half the population of the city. Which, it turns out, is quite small.

2. Don't scoffer at the cash offer that we proffer.

Cash for Jim Kiraly or Grace Kiraly

Jim Kiraly's and Grace Kiraly's SSNs, 038-20-8134 and 556-40-1879 respectively, are disclosed for the same purposes, along with as much other information as it's remotely possible to disclose, throughout this site.

Payment of $50 up to $1,500 is offered for additional information. Which will be used, as well, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws.

Similar offers apply to other parties.

3. Kiralys on the Move.

Kiralys on the Move

As of May 07, 2019 Jim and Grace resided in unit 11A as opposed to 21B. So, during the Summer, the couple relocated but remained in Atterdag Village; i.e., the complex located at 636 Atterdag Road.

The reason for the move is unknown but might be related to proximity to medical staff or larger room size or other medical or quality of life reasons.

4. Hooray, there's a take-away.

It's worth noting that the couple felt the need to relocate, but elected not to leave the complex.

They'd told people in Avila Beach that they might relocate to Austin, Texas, a city where their son Tom, CFO of Hanger, Inc. resides or resided. However, my guess is that that particular move is off the table.

It appears Solvang, CA is just right for Jim and Grace. I'm pleased that they've found a community that suits them.

For technical reasons, the community suits me as well.

5. Birthday letter is even better.

A birthday letter was delivered. It's being merged into a new document that will be mass-mailed to Solvang, CA residents. Copies of the updated document will be posted periodically as it's expanded to book size.

6. Karen Louise Kiraly.

As Jim Kiraly, the wife beater who has hopped to multiple cities in his 80s to avoid litigation, is retired, it can be tricky to “gather information” (a formal term from the failed gag-order attempts) on him.

It's simpler in the case of his supporters who fought for a year to legitimate wife beating and abuse of other types, including one incident of sexual misconduct.

Today's gag-order cases codefendant is Karen Louise Kiraly.

Karen comes to mind because the email address kl.kiraly@gmail.com has popped up in connection with Tom Kiraly, former CFO of Humana, Inc.

You can't trust records based on names. However, pro tip: A match of a wife's first and middle initial combined with her husband's name is a match indeed.

Karen Louise Kiraly, DOB Jan 17, 1959; SSN 570-27-1066; maiden name Washmon.

She's tangential to the gag-order cases. Not like Virginia Chang Kiraly, SSN allegedly 449-43-8911, who's involved in prosecutable crimes up to her well-groomed but aging politician eyebrows.

But Karen would be a witness to false statements made to her daughter Riane Kiraly and her son James Kiraly the younger; false statements that led James and Riane to sign a particular document in 2013.

I don't know, yet, what was said. So, once I learn, I'll have fresh grounds, not addressable by claims of statute of limitations, to initiate litigation against one or more parties.

I'm feeling time pressure because Jim could kick the bucket at any moment. Jim will undoubtedly tell the Grim Reaper to take a hike, but he's mortal regardless. Natural causes will finish him. And I'll be bereft.

I'd prefer to get the violent abuser Jim Kiraly, former VP of Transamerica, into Court before he expectorates his last phlegm of hate.

So, if you believe in what's right or enjoy intellectual exercise, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, it's Kash for Kiralys.

Karen Kiraly is theoretically residing in the Austin, Texas property which Tom Kiraly is believed to have purchased a few years ago; i.e., 9520 Westminster Glen Avenue, Austin, Texas.

One would think that research into Austin community affairs or business would turn her up. However, connections to other cities continue to show up. So, it's not guaranteed that Karen resides primarily in Austin.

7. Jean Washmon.

On the other hand, here's an interesting point. Some records indicate that Jean Washmon, Karen's mother, is located at the Westminster Glen address.

This is probably incorrect. If you end up in the research business, understand that records are full of false positives. They should be treated as just a starting point.

In some cases, it's more unusual than false positives. Quite often, for example, multiple people share the same SSN.

This seems to be the case with Karen Kiraly and my brother Ken Kiraly as well. To be clear, Karen and Ken don't have the same SSN. However, each is believed to have one in common with others.

In fact, Ken Kiraly's SSN, 573-45-7687, is shared by no less than 3 people. Or this was the case in the mid-2010s. I warned Ken about this at the time, but I don't know if he looked into it or not.

The fact that Jean Washmon shows up at Westminster Glen at all confirms that Karen was associated with the property in the past whether or not she's there now.

Additionally, Jean would have little reason to relocate to the property in question unless her health was declining and Karen was going to care of her. So, if Jean is residing there, Karen and Tom are probably residing there as well.

8. Tom Kiraly.

Details related to Karen's husband Tom Kiraly aka Thomas Evan Kiraly, CFO of Hanger, Inc. in Austin, Texas, are worth double dollars.

Speaking of Tom, he's supposedly connected directly or indirectly now to something called MetraComp.

This information might be incorrect or obsolete. But there's a MetraComp in the managed healthcare space and this would be consistent with Tom's experience.

It's probably not important. We'll see in due course. But, if you're somebody who's able to explain the connection, let's talk.

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Birthday card for Grace Kiraly
Birthday card for Grace Kiraly mother of Ken Kiraly and Tom Kiraly
191016 Wednesday — Solvang, CA update

191016. Solvang, CA update.

Solvang, CA is a small city in California located about an hour's drive northwest of Santa Barbara, CA.

Solvang is small enough that it's technically feasible to snail-mail essentially every person in the city who has a mailbox.

In fact, we hope to accomplish that goal in connection with a legitimate and reasonable project that is protected under U.S. laws.

For a few details related to the project, scroll down. The purpose of this post is to indicate that the project remains in progress as of October 2019 and that we look forward to productive feedback in due course.

Additional news may be posted by Christmas 2019. Or the project may continue into the Spring.

We're in no rush. It's good for the heart and the soul to approach creative projects on a relaxed basis and to enjoy them. I feel that I'll enjoy this one.

That's a key point. I'd like friends to know that it's good to work on projects that one truly enjoys.

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A perfectly ordinary family
Bob Kiraly, Ken Kiraly, and Tom Kiraly
190616 Sunday — Father's Day Happiness Pray

190616. Father's Day Happiness Pray

I like to honor Father's Day in my own small ways.

This year, I'd like to share tips related to snail-mail campaigns and a look at how I'm setting one up myself.

The campaign will be seeking, for legimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, to “gather information” related to my putative father Jim Kiraly's past actions and current situation.

Note: I say “putative father” because the jury is out on whether or not Jim is my biological father.

I'll be focusing on the cities of Solvang, CA and Pismo Beach, CA though Menlo Park, CA, Austin, TX, and other cities will be included.

Solvang, CA is relevant because it's where Jim and his wife Grace Kiraly have settled for the time being.

In fact, they're at 636 Atterdag Road unless they've packed up a load and hit the road in question. This is possible but unlikely.

Jim has dodged the honors that are due him for 7 years. However now, I think, he's gone to ground in a town that he has no plans to leave.

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Atterdag Village, Solvang, CA, residence of violent abuser Jim Kiraly
Atterdag Village, Solvang, CA

The current snail-mail campaign is unusual in one respect.

Solvang, CA has a population of just 5,500 or so souls. It isn't a very large town. I have the names and snail-mail addresses of as many as 50% to 75% of the residents.

For the first time in the 7 years that I've been conducting legitimate and reasonable research that is protected under U.S. laws, I'm going to reach a large chunk of one of the cities involved.

Potentially half the city. I'm likely to reach more people than the local newspapers do.

Note to attorneys:

I'm not presently under any legal or ethical obligation to preserve records related to the current campaign or any other campaigns.

So, it probably won't be possible to meet demands either a priori or ex post facto for lists of addresses either possessed or communicated with.

Have a pleasant day. Oh, and kindly click on >>this link<< to review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List.

Thank you for your kind attention to exactly trucked your violent abuser client Jim Kiraly, 636 Atterdag Road, Solvang, CA, SSN 038-20-8134 is.

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Robert holding up disabled Scott. Tom Kiraly CFO of Hanger, Inc. in the middle. Ken Kiraly VP of Amazon Lab126 on the right.
4 Kiraly brothers 1960s

Seeking to communicate with the public?

If you'd like to send an inquiry to a large group of people by snail-mail, and it'll fit on a large postcard, that's a simple undertaking. There are “print and mail” firms which specialize in that.

If your document is bigger than a postcard, but no more than 10 printed pages in length, a simple #10 letter approach will do.

Happy Envelope

In this case, you'll print double-sided to 20 lb 8.5"x11" pages. The result should be 5 or fewer 8.5"x11" sheets weighing, ideally, 1 oz total or less.

A single staple in the upper-left corner will be sufficient binding. You'll fold each copy to fit in a standard #10 envelope and mail it using a single USPS stamp.

You might or might not need a “print and mail” firm for this approach.


It's possible that 5 sheets (10 pages) plus the envelope and stamp will total just over 1 oz.

So, depending on the exact weight of the paper, you might only be able to send 4 sheets (8 pages) at the single-stamp price.

Manilla envelopes

You can use the preceding approach for larger mailings. However, postage will be higher and you'll need to switch to 9"x12" envelopes at some point.

Note: I prefer, and recommend, sturdy 9"x12" manilla envelopes.

If a mailing is much larger, you'll also need to use 2 or 3 staples close to the left edge of the document. Heavy duty staples might be required.

I've done it this way for documents totaling up to 80 to 100 pages (40 to 50 8.5"x11" sheets).

The largest documents were years ago. I did them without the aid of a “print and mail” firm.

I'd guess that a document in that class — let's say 45 8.5"x11" sheets (90 8.5"x11" pages) — plus staples and a 9"x12" manilla envelope might weigh a total of roughly 11 oz.

That would cost $2.50 per unit to mail First-Class at 2019 rates. $2.50 is more than it cost me years ago, but it sounds consistent if we take inflation into account.


The cost to print or copy a document of this example size (45 sheets or 90 pages) at a walk-in print/copy center is big-time pricey.

This is how I did it at the start, years ago. However, I must have negotiated a deal. I don't recall the details, but I wouldn't have paid the rates that I see advertised these days.

Walk-in print/copy rates are, based on recent calls, about 25 cents per 8.5"x11" sheet for double-sided output. Depending on the firm, there might be a discount for large quantities.

This works out, before the possible discount, to about $11.25 for a 45 sheet (or 90 page) document.

$11.25 for printing plus $2.50 for postage = Nope  :)

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Grace had to dispose of Misha because Jim was infuriated by the stubborn dog
Grace Kiraly and dog Misha

It's better, for large numbers of documents or large numbers of pages, to use a “print and mail” firm. Firms of this type can do the work faster and cheaper than you can.

This is what I've done most often in recent years for snail-mail.

I've used couriers, too, to do things like blanket city blocks with printed copies of documents. However, that's a different subject.

The trick is, of course, to find decent shops to work with. But I've talked to a number of these firms over the years and my sense is that there's enough competition that the sub-par companies don't last.

The documents that I've sent in recent years have followed the double-sided 8.5"x11" model discussed above.

This has worked well enough, but that model isn't friendly to larger documents. In particular, staples are problematic once you get up to high page counts.

For the current Solvang, CA snail-mail campaign, I'm going to try something different.

I've talked to a few firms and consensus seems to be that the following approach is worth a try:

* Print each copy of a document on 11"x17" sheets of paper using software that fits four standard 8.5"x11" pages onto the two sides of each 11"x17" sheet.

* Fold each set of 11"x17" printouts to make a booklet of 8.5"x11" pages. The booklet isn't bound.

* Print addresses directly onto 9"x12" envelopes. Insert copies of the documents into the envelopes. Mail using Second Class as opposed to First Class.

This approach is cost-effective. For 500 units at a time, depending on the firm that's offering the quote and the number of pages involved, it appears that this can be done for $2.50 to $3.50 per unit including both printing and postage.

At the low end of the price range, and taking inflation into account, that's the same price that I paid years ago for postage alone when sending large documents.

Sign me up. Solvang, CA, metaphorically, here I come.  :)

Father's Day Thoughts

It wouldn't be Father's Day without the 2013 piece in which I finally worked out What the Hell had happened.

It was astonishing to see it actually happen. My Father, mentally ill, out of control, and with the funds needed to do real damage.

What really happened, though? Were Jim's delusions due to senescence? Does my Father, senility diapers askew, befoul himself with excrement as he glares at the computer he's accused me of hacking, certain that I must be lurking somewhere in the shadows even now? Is the next step to accuse me of riding broomsticks in the night sky as my copilot Christ and I circle about, cackling with glee as we plan our next move?

No. Jim's mind is going the way that his Uncle John's mind went. In the end, there will be nothing left. But he came after me because he was working backwards. Something that he's done all his life.

You've seen people lie consciously. I've seen others convince themselves that black is white and white is carrots. Both things happen.

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Broomsticks in the Night Sky
Broomsticks in the Night Sky

Excrementum Meum, Sapidum et Salubri

Jim Kiraly

Jim Kiraly of 636 Atterdag Road, Solvang CA, if you should happen to read this, I'd like to offer you best wishes for good health.

If you don't happen to read this, there's no need to be concerned that you'll miss out on honor and respect.

The town in which you've settled — pretty much the entire population of 5,500 ‐ is going to know, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, the esteem that you've earned and in which you should be held.

Jim Kiraly needs to eat more for health

Jim Kiraly, I've wondered, in the years since 2013,
have you enjoyed the taste of
excrementum meum, sapidum et salubri?

Brown and delicious
For you, it's nutritious
Let it slide down your throat
I'm not speaking by rote

It'll perk you up
You'll be like a pup
Jim, no need to be grim
it's tasty for her and for him
Come and indulge
Your tummy will bulge
You'll enjoy the food of health
That can't be bought with wealth
Enjoy my
excrementum meum, sapidum et salubri !  :)

Technical notes for webdevs:

I consider this theme to be pretty good for its purposes. Note that it doesn't need JS or PHP7 except for statistics or comments. It's fast and mobile-friendly regardless.

The preceding Best Wishes rhyme incorporates a new feature ported from the minetest.org version of the theme: floating stanzas.

There's no mechanism, yet, for controlling the width of the stanzas. But if I just want to dash off a quick rhyme without a lot of wasted white space — but stay mobile-responsive — it does the trick.

I say “theme”, but it's actually a markup language that supports all of the features that I typically use when I assemble a non-JS site.

190409 Tuesday — Crumpets

190409. Crumpets.

@takenji ebooks said:
Crumpets make crummy pets.

BoldCoder responded:
But they're crumbly best bets.

190406 Saturday — Vegan Pet Food

190406. Vegan Pet Food.

@Maya Posch said:
Is it safe for your cat or dog to eat a vegan diet?

BoldCoder responded:

Only if you're careful. Protein isn't equal to protein. Research until you're clear about the details before making such a major shift in Mr. Woof's or Captain Wow's diet.

Your pets trust you. And they're more important than some people. Don't risk their lives to make a point.

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Pet cat and dog
Pet cat and dog
190101 Tuesday — Haggis Hell RSS feed is back

190101. Haggis Hell RSS feed is back.

From January 10, 2017:

Mr. Meow asked for an RSS feed
Mr. Meow request we will heed
RSS feed is what we need
RSS feed is modern breed
Here you go

The site's RSS feed is working again.

RSS is a feature that lets you subscribe to notifications of new articles at a website. Some web browsers support RSS directly and others have RSS add-ons. There are also phone apps that read RSS feeds.

The Haggis Hell RSS icon can be found in the upper right corner of the newer pages on the site. The link is:


If you're using Chrome under Android, select Add a New Feed when prompted about what to do. Lightweight browsers such as UC Browser won't support this feature.

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Haggis Hell RSS feed example

RSS technical notes:

1. An RSS feed consists simply of a XML file that looks like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
<title>Put a title here</title>
<link>Put website link here</link>
<description>Put website description here</description>
    <title>Put article title and short description here</title>
    <link>Put link to article here</link>
    <guid>Put same link here</guid>
    <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 12:00:00 EST</pubDate>
    <description><![CDATA[You can put a longer description here.]]></description>

There should be one <item> block for each article to be listed in the feed.

<pubDate> blocks, one for each <item> block, should list a publication date and time in the format shown here.

The <description> block is optional.

2. To deploy an RSS feed, a web page needs simply to link to the associated XML file. For example:

<href="http://yoursite.com/sandwiches.rss" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml">Click here to subscribe</a>

where the link should point to the XML file.

The type= part seems to be optional but is probably a good idea.

Most sites display a small RSS logo in the link instead of a prompt string. This site presently does both in different places.

3. Adding code similar to the following to the page's head block may be beneficial:

<link href="http://yoursite.com/sandwiches.rss" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Your Site Feed Title" />

4. One tricky part of RSS, on the server side, is updating the XML file when new posts are added. This can be done using short scripts in Perl, Python, or other languages.

190101 Tuesday — Tindeck OldCoder page is back

190101. Tindeck OldCoder page is back.

From Twitter.

Tindeck, a site where I stored music by associates, has shut down due to #Article13. This is a #copyright law that makes no provision for Fair Use.
I've recreated the Tindeck OldCoder page and added Tindeck's statement. To play or D/L the music, visit:

181224 Monday — It's a Vector Sunset You Bet

181224. It's a Vector Sunset You Bet.

From Twitter.

If I can't go places due to the loss of my life, I can travel virtually with associates.
std::vector is en route to visit his #mother for #Christmas - a woman who is less savage than my own mother Grace.
The #photo reminds us that we're all small and yet part of something large.

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Christmas trip sunset

140313 Thursday — What Happens to Older Developers?

This post is old but will remain on the front page for the time being.

140313. Jeff Jenkins posted these questions and others recently at Ask Hacker News:

What happens to older developers? Is there a plateau in pay? Is there a drop in pay switching jobs after a certain number of years? Is becoming a specialist rather than a generalist the answer?

To read the original post, click here. Note: The link was valid as of March 2014. However, it may have broken since then.

This is my response:

Developers who go on long enough are expected to obtain high-level titles by their 50s or to retire at about that time.

I'd like to discuss an issue that you might not have thought about: What's going to happen if you lose your job?

Employment in the 50s can be problematic. If somebody is skilled and employed, and has a high-level title or is a specialist or has useful connections, they should be able to obtain a new position.

Otherwise, they might go from well-off to homeless. It happens. I'm 55, my resume is pretty good, and I was worth $1M a decade ago. I'm a transient now. I've got some medical issues, no medical care, and no dentists. Potential jobs are largely unskilled physical labor, which I'm not able to do.

I'm taking a shot at tutoring. However, I don't expect that to provide more than gas money. The head of an admin assistant firm said that I can't be a secretary unless I already am one.

Two people considered sending me to care for elderly relatives, but we didn't proceed. My title at one of those positions was going to be “poop scooper”.

Don't let this happen to you. For what it's worth, here's my advice:

1. Don't fall off of the employment ladder.

2. Become a specialist. Try to remain broad enough, though, that you don't become obsolete.

3. Build a network of people. Make it a large one.

4. Diversify your investments.

5. While you're employed, don't let medical issues, even minor ones, go untreated for long. If you lose your job and your assets, you'll lose medical care too and the issues may become serious.

6. Be kind to people. But don't be a fool. Most people that you help are not going to return the favor.

Regarding specialists, I did recruiting for a while in 2011 and I can confirm that the filters are weighted against generalists.

I've spent about 35 years myself as a generalist. My jobs called for it. The place where I spent most of my career took any project that came along, code of any type. At a dot-com that followed, after the money ran out, I handled all of the technical roles; IT, websites, development, support, documentation, etc. I was able to do a bit of everything.

Later on, none of this made a difference. There are few job listings that say “a bit of everything”.

After the dot-com shut down, 2003, I made $1M in the stock market. Lost most of it afterwards and reentered the job market. Learned that middle-age generalists were not in high demand.

In my case, there were other factors that won't apply to you. It's a story for another time. But if you're a generalist who falls off of the ladder in middle age, you can expect things like this:

“With a resume like that, why isn't he a CTO? Why doesn't he even have a job?”

You'll be asked questions about algorithms that you haven't thought about for 30 years. Or you'll go through coding tests under adverse conditions that don't allow you to show what you can do.

Plan ahead. Understand that the best-laid schemes of mice and men often go awry.

My own resume is located at:

this link

These are my links. Yes, the technical site needs Twitter Bootstrap :P

  1. Technical site (oldcoder.org)
  2. My GitHub
  3. My LinkedIn
  4. My Twitter
  5. OldCoder Nerdcore Song

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

It Happens to Everybody
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