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Are you ready to go down the rabbit hole? To visit a surreal world, where black is white and white is carrots?

A friend, Metacognician in Shanghai, describes the situation as follows: “Life is more absurd than movies. I've gone down the rabbit hole too, when it just becomes more and more strange and you wonder how that all is supposed to make sense.” I asked him if I should just embrace it. He answered, “Why should you ... change the universe?”

It started with a psychotic named Jim Kiraly who resides, we think, at 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California.

Jim Kiraly is a respected citizen. A churchgoer. A Vice President of Transamerica Corporation. And a violent abuser who tried to use an emergency anti-violence measure, one intended to protect battered women, to stop his victim in a wheelchair from writing a book.

Concise enough? :)

For attorneys: Jim Kiraly filed for CLETS against his son and victim, who lived 200 miles away, did not own a car, and was in a wheelchair. His son and victim was not asked to end communications. Jim had no (zero) specific and relevant allegations that were not perjury. But he turned down repeated offers of no-contact and a signed stipulation that gave him everything but CLETS. He insisted on CLETS if his victim ever once “discussed” him with third parties.

In the end, Jim Kiraly signed an agreement far weaker than the ones he'd been offered.

A review of Court paperwork and other materials will tend to confirm that Jim and other parties, including attorneys on all sides, committed multiple felonies, crimes, and faux pas. :P

The word “abuser” is stated here publicly and without equivocation. A formal offer is hereby made to reaffirm the word in writing and under oath. Attorneys will understand the significance of the point. In short, there is little terror of a threatened defamation suit on this side. Actually, we feel that such a suit will fit nicely up Jim Kiraly's abuser ass.

Jim has one son, Ken Kiraly, who invented the Amazon Kindle and is one of the leads at Amazon's secret Lab126. Another son, Tom Kiraly is one of the leads, a Vice President-CFO type, at medical insurance firms, including one of the largest, Humana Corporation.

These people and some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley legal circles have committed or are involved in multiple crimes.

For the next decade or two, we're going to explore the crimes that these people committed, the motivations and the denial involved, the background and histories that led each person to make the choices that they did, and ways to build upon what happened and move towards positive societal goals.

There's plenty to go over. These people committed or were involved in: Spousal abuse, child abuse, DDOS (a highly prosecutable violation of CFAA), extortion, perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury (a possible felony), false police reports, conspiracy to file false police reports (a possible felony), unlawful threats, barratry, defamation, malpractice, civil harassment, criminal harassment, abuse of process, and violations of SCCBA Professional Standards.

The point was to force Jim's oldest son and victim, me, to sign a gag order. I was in a wheelchair. I'd never made a single inappropriate threat against my abuser. I wasn't even asked to not to call anybody. But Jim threatened to put me in a violence database unless I agreed never to write about him.

I won the right to write, but I lost my home of 25 years, most of my possessions, my chances for retirement, everything. Everything but a realization.

I can make a difference. I can conduct research for legitimate and reasonable purposes, document what happened, and analyze the choices of the people involved:

Maggie told me that she didn't know what she could say to me about what happened. However, we have decades to work it out. It will be productive. I'd like to direct the attention of attorneys and other parties to the:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List

Questions or comments are welcome. For technical notes and disclaimers, click here.

Free Downloads

The current free ebook is located at this link:

For details about the ebook, click here.

The Kiralys and their associates have tried to take down the sites before. Actually, they've committed multiple felonies in the process. It's no big deal, but to make a point, we're giving everything away for the low price of... well, free.

Here's a link to a ZIP file that contains a copy of the main Christ Follower site. It may be out of date but feel free to download the ZIP file and pass it around. The file is about 150MB in size.

Link for

The point? “The story is already out there, idiots. Keep it up and I'll demonstrate how something known as decentralized distribution works.”


150521 Thursday — Vote for Minor Note

Tags: cases kiraly

150521. A party in Madison, Wisconsin visited the sites yesterday.

The IPV4 was This geolocates to a POP at 43.0286 -89.5181, Midtown Road and South High Point Road, which is 2 miles from the location where my nephew-in-law Eric Holub is believed to reside.

George Kerechanko or his wife Sandy Kerechanko paid me a visit a week ago. Now, most likely, Eric Holub. It appears that this is pseudo-family week.

No further comments tonight. Might add thoughts later on.


150518 Monday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest poem

150518. For Lord of the Rings and Minetest people, here's a screenshot of the Wookie Warlock's cozy Lord of the Test village and a poem from the same source.

I swim under the waterfall
Not a care at all
What a beautiful feeling
The silence is appealing

Beach I've found the missing link to an island flame
A beautiful paradise calling my name
Beaches and crashing waves
Jungles, mountains, and rocky caves

If you can fly
Don't stop at the sky
I stare into my island's starry afternoon
There's footprints on the moon

But you know I cannot gloat
My heart can't harbor this paddleboat
I'll have to swim back to the shore
Return to real world filled with war

As I walk onto the shore
I realize something I hadn't before
I was feeling alone in the foam
No paradise could keep me from returning home

The license for the poem above and screenshot below is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is the Wookie Warlock.

The license for the beach illustration is the same but the rights-holder in this case is tohdaryl. For a larger version of the beach illustration, click here.

Wookie Warlock Cozy Village

There was a time when the extension of illegality to innocent acts could be used to manipulate men. But when guilt is no longer felt over acts of genuine criminality, what hope of instilling guilt in the innocent?

My villages were taken away by Tom Kiraly and Alison Buchanan with the help of Jim Kiraly


150515 Friday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest

150515. For Minetest people, New York City is now up and running.

New York City, my world, was created initially by JP2. This was a year or two ago but due to the Gag Order Cases I didn't have time to set it up until now.

This world is just for show. Since it's a model of the real New York City and we don't want random builds, interact will be limited. But default privs include fly and noclip, so you can fly through buildings to take a look.

The server is as usual and the port is: 30016

To get my free MS-Windows Minetest clients, visit:

<DI3HARD139> fvkbvbkkvbvbbhalbbkhhfvhbffhkb
<PicklesRGood> blegh
<PicklesRGood> bleh
<PicklesRGood> bleck
<OldCoder> Um
<DI3HARD139> yes?
<OldCoder> Quality of discourse seems low
<DI3HARD139> yup
<OldCoder> Announcing New York City World
<DI3HARD139> gimmie
<OldCoder> Port 30016 on
<PicklesRGood> whooo!!!!
<OldCoder> Minetest.Org is Better than Borg :P
<DI3HARD139> This must've taken forever to make
<OldCoder> I think it did
<OldCoder> We need a Zombies mod. A good one.
<DI3HARD139> I know, right?
<OldCoder> Zombies in New York City at Night
<OldCoder> with Bagels and Pretzels all night long
<DI3HARD139> that'd be awesome
<DI3HARD139> this is a beautifuly world
<DI3HARD139> thanks for sharing it
<OldCoder> This is what I am for
<OldCoder> To save that what which needs to be saved

The license for the screenshots are Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

New York City is Not Itty-Bitty

In an expanding universe, time is on the side of the outcast. Those who once inhabited the suburbs of human contempt find that without changing their address they eventually live in the metropolis.

Hoge Fenton's Alison Buchanan and Maggie Desmond have helped abusers to injure other women

New York City is World of Walter Mitty

All great art is born of the metropolis.

Virginia Chang Kiraly and Tom Kiraly are in-laws

Two screenshots are not enough

When I desire a spectacle I look to my own conscience. We have truth in order not to die of art. Eddie knelt and lifted a rock. `Lawyers,' he whispered.

Ken Kiraly is the son of Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly


150514 Thursday — Kerechanko Visit, Is It?

Tags: cases kiraly

150514. A party in Paso Robles, CA downloaded the ebook last night. Note: If you'd like a copy, click here.

The IPV4 was This geolocates to a POP at 35.6268 -120.6901, Park St. and 12th St., which is 3 miles from the Fairway Drive residence of George Kerechanko, my Mother Grace Kiraly's cousin.

It appears that George or his wife Sandy have a copy of the document. This is an interesting development.

George was the son of Edward Kerechanko. Edward's sister was Olga Kerechanko, and Grace was Olga's daughter.

When George Kerechanko and I were younger, he was significant to me. He was more of a symbol than anything else, but symbols are not to be dismissed lightly.

The situation is more complicated now.

George felt that his son Russell Kerechanko, who died in 2013 of an apparent drug overdose, was a loser. My perspective is that Russell had a difficult time settling into adulthood, but was making progress towards the end.

I myself worked my ass off for decades. I didn't have a family. I didn't do much that was interesting. Instead, I just worked and worked.

My reward was to have my own Mother Grace Kiraly assume, after I came down with arthritis, that the arthritis happened because I was lazy. And that if I had difficulty finding work at my level after my company folded and my startup died, it was because, you guessed it, I was lazy.

When I asked Grace to ask her husband to help with a job search, she said, “Is this about money? Do you want money?” I told her, “Absolutely not. I want to work.”

When I noted that I'd been largely without W2 work for years, the type that you need to get medical care, Grace snapped, without hesitation, “Whose fault is that?”

Grace Kiraly is sort of a b*tch. Looking back, she always was.

Subsequently, Grace's husband Jim Kiraly, who had abused her and most of her children, initiated legal actions against me intended to stop my work on a book.

The same book, or part of it, that George or Sandy downloaded last night. The PDF that they have will make up about 1/4 of the final work.

The legal actions started in 2012. George Kerechanko's son Russell was still alive at this point. George never asked me about the cases. Instead, he listened to Grace Kiraly's rants and imagined that I was like Russell, who he viewed as a failure.

I'd worked hard, and done nothing but work hard, since age 9. This was my life. But facts didn't matter. I'd suspected this for years but 2012 was the turning point.

These people, like a cow or hen
Beasts of the field that lack reason
but presume to walk like men
They have human faces
They have human hands
In the inner places
This is not what God demands
They belong to me and it's not Zen
Feasts of revealed track my season

George may like the chapters related to motorcycles. He's mentioned in that context. Both George and Sandy are invited to comment on the work as a whole.

I see that George or Sandy also reviewed the obituary that I wrote for their dead son. If you'd like to read that, click here.

They only spent 4 minutes on that page, though, so they may not have read the letter to Lisa Kerechanko, Russell's sister, that makes up the second half. I'd like them to read the letter as I feel that it addresses everything.

The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is NatSilva.

Happy Family

The love of family and the admiration of friends is much more important than wealth and privilege.

It was not really a happy family that Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly put together with Tom Kiraly and Ken Kiraly

The legal actions erased my life savings and any dreams that I had left in middle age. The book is most of what is left.

Jim Kiraly resides, if he is still alive (he has had a number of strokes) at 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, CA. I'd like to gather as much information, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, about him before he dies.

People interested in the factors involved in spousal abuse and child abuse are invited to help gather information, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, related to Jim Kiraly, Grace Kiraly, and other parties involved in the Gag Order Cases. Attorneys are asked to review the following document before commenting:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List


150513 Wednesday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest

150513. For Minetest people, ChainLynx world is now up and running.

ChainLynx was created initially by oOChainLynxOo, who has a large Minetest series at YouTube. This is presently a Creative world. Damage and PVP are enabled. Lots of add-ons as usual. As Deezl says, “dats a lotta mods”.

The server is as usual and the port is: 30017

To get my free MS-Windows Minetest clients, visit:

The license for the screenshot is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

ChainLynx does not Stynx

This is a Basilica by oOChainLynxOo.

Grace Kiraly and Alison Buchanan of Hoge Fenton don't really belong in a church


150509 Saturday — Free 62-page ebook

Tags: u.c. berkeley free speech

150509. Sex, drugs, and Rocky Horror Picture Show.

As a Mothers Day special, here's a section of the main book. This is a free 62-page ebook in PDF format:

Click here for ebook   or share this link:

The ebook is about High School and U.C. Berkeley students in the 1970s. Sex, drugs, Rocky Horror Picture Show, final exams, autism, model rockets, friends, jobs, motorcycles, and diversity.

Diversity as in blacks being allowed to move into a whites-only city. Women being allowed to work. And gays turning out to be ordinary people after all.

Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly at 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California. Tom Kiraly. Michael Bonetto. Maggie Desmond. They said, in Court, that there was no book. They put the word in quotes like this:


They were focused, to the point of silliness, on stopping a book. This book. Is it time for these people to eat their sh... shoes, yet? :P

What matters, though, is that we can change things. There's been a lot of progress in 40 years. More is possible. If we try, and we don't ever stop, no matter what those who hate do, we can make a difference.

The photo below is of a young woman at Ridge Project, a student residence of the 1970s. For a larger copy, click here. The license for the photo is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

Censorship is never over

Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.

Jim Kiraly, Michael Bonetto and his assistand Maggie Desmond of Hoge Fenton, and Jim's victim Grace Kiraly tried to stop this book


150506 Wednesday — Makita is a Doggie Neata

Tags: woof

150506. This is Makita, a Swedish doggie, male, two years old. Is he bold? I don't know, but he strikes me as faithful.

The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is the Cat Ninja.

Makita is a Doggie Neata

A faithful friend is a strong defense; And he that hath found him hath found a treasure.

Alison Buchanan of Hoge Fenton and Ken Kiraly of Amazon may or may not own dogs


150502 Saturday — Fenton Hoge is Lovable as Doge

Tags: cases kiraly

150502. This is a copy of a letter to attorney J. Timothy Maximoff of Hoge Fenton, a major law firm based in Santa Clara County, California.

Hoge Fenton is said to have been the lead contributor to the Professional Standards used by the Santa Clara County Bar Association. This letter is related partly to that issue.

“Mr. Bonetto” is Michael T. Bonetto, who handled the Kiraly Gag Order cases on Hoge Fenton's side. John Perrott was my own attorney.

The remark “enough of an idiot” is related to Michael Bonetto's attempts to extort my agreement to a gag order related to spousal abuse and child abuse, attempts that lasted about a year and that cost me my life savings, my home of 25 years, and my chances for a life free of pain and fear at last.

“Tim” Maximoff of Hoge Fenton
State Bar Number 126846
311 Navarra Drive (unverified pending confirmation)
Scotts Valley, CA 95066

Cc: John H. Perrott
State Bar Number 213080
4516 Bucknall Road (unconfirmed, pending verification)
San Jose, CA 95130

Note for attorneys: This letter is not confidential. To reassure you of this, it has, in fact, been posted publicly.

Tim, there seems to be a technical issue with your system related to email. Would you or Seth happen to know anything about it?

Is it connected to confusing and unexplained remarks that Mr. Bonetto has made related to email, or to prosecutable crimes, including but not limited to felonies, that he is involved with?

As there seems to be a technical issue related to email, as Mr. Bonetto has made confusing and unexplained remarks related to email, and as multiple legitimate and reasonable purposes are involved:

* Do you object to legitimate and reasonable communications directed to the alternate address listed above?

* If you do object, do you assert that you have a legal basis to object?

* If you do make such an assertion, what are the grounds that you cite?

* As a separate issue, do you object to consensual communications, for legitimate and reasonable purposes, directed to third parties located in the geographic vicinity of the alternate address?

* Do you understand the likely legitimate and reasonable outcomes if you are enough of an idiot to attempt, as another member of Hoge Fenton has been enough of an idiot to attempt, to assert a legal basis for objections to consensual communications with third parties and/or to seek a gag order in connection with the results of such communications?

* Is the alternate address correct?

It's odd to realize that I asked your firm, as a whole, a few sensible questions 2 to 3 years ago, questions that any member of the public would be entitled to ask, that I repeated the sensible questions politely over the years, and yet somehow... after years, your firm has not even stated whether or not it will, or will not, answer the questions; let alone answered them.

Wee-eee doggies, it's downright puzzling :P Well, let's list some of them:

1. Does Hoge Fenton indicate, upon inquiries, case numbers and venues for past legal cases in which specific attorneys at the firm have been involved and, if not, why not?

2. Who, at Hoge Fenton, took the lead in preparing the initial drafts of the Professional Standards that, in theory, apply to all Santa Clara County attorneys?

3. What role does Hoge Fenton, the firm that is said to have written the initial drafts of the Professional Standards, feel that the Standards play in the career of an attorney? Are Santa Clara County attorneys expected to conform to the Standards, to at least know what they say, to be vaguely aware of them, to be able to spell out words in the title, or what, exactly?

4. What is Hoge Fenton's position on violations by the firm's own attorneys of the Santa Clara County Professional Standards that the firm itself wrote? Pro or con?

5. Does the firm provide tangible rewards to the attorneys who rack up the largest number of violations? Or are the rewards intangible?

6. Does Hoge Fenton's perspective depend on whether or not violations are minor and technical in nature as opposed to egregious and unconscionable?

7. What is Hoge Fenton's position on spousal abuse? Pro or con?

8. What is Hoge Fenton's position on child abuse? Pro or con?

Maggie Desmond told me recently that she didn't know what she could say to me. The response I've posted online is that we have decades to find out.

But let's start with answers to the questions listed above.

Warm regards.

P.S. As a courtesy, be advised that to find the online material mentioned above, you may proceed as follows:

Type the first and last name of one of the attorneys and/or other parties involved into Google along with a relevant keyword such as “abuse”, “harlot”, “sociopath”, or “spittle”.

The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is WickedSick37.

Answer the Questions, Tim

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

J. Timothy Maximoff of Hoge Fenton, which was hired by Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly, ain't talking


150501 Friday — Letter to Bacon Brain Who is a Pain

Tags: cases kiraly

150501. This is a letter to Attorney John Perrott. It's a follow-up to the long letter to the California Technology Agency that was sent on 150430. To read the long letter, scroll down.

Note: There are several versions of this follow-up circulating. This was the most recent version as of 150501.

John, my friend:

I reviewed one of the documents that you and/or the California Technology Agency looked at yesterday on the Free Speech Anti-Abuse websites.

I noticed something that I'd missed before. It appears that in mid-2014 you characterized an allusion to your residence address as a “threat” specifically to serve you there with legal papers.

Wasn't this during the discussion where I'd asked you simply to receive subpoenas on my behalf? Something that most attorneys who had not committed felonies would readily agree to do?

Tom Stutzman, the alleged sex offender who has been disciplined for sexual harassment, had stated that he didn't want further communication directed to “this law office”. So wasn't the allusion in question simply about moving receipt of subpoenas to an address that he couldn't object to?

John, you know what? You're an idiot and I assert this publicly as a fact.

During the Gag Order cases, you never even read most of my instructions to you. Did you? You ignored them. You were too busy committing actual fraud. You know, you've never denied telling me that the document you charged me thousands of dollars for was going to get my fees paid in advance. The document that the Court admonished you for. I'm sure that you remember it.

You know where the prosecutable fraud that you committed and have not denied is going to go, in a legitimate and reasonable sense, right?

Warm regards, Robert

P.S. Bacon Brain.

The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is AireDaleDogz.

Lovable Idiots

God looks after children, animals and idiots.

John Perrot Family Law Attorney and Tom Stutzman will steal from you


150430 Thursday — Letter to California Technology Agency

Tags: cases kiraly

150430. The link below goes to a PDF that has been sent to the California Technology Agency.

Letter to California Technology Agency

And here is the document in Web format.

Date: April 30, 2015
Subject: Request to speak with CTA
ATTN: Carlos Ramos or his secretary

California Technology Agency c/o California Department of Technology
1325 J Street, Suite 1600
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 319-9223

For attorneys: Nothing in this letter is confidential. In fact, this letter has been posted publicly.

Cc: John H. Perrott
State Bar Number 2130880
4516 Bucknall Road (unconfirmed, pending verification)
San Jose, CA 95130

Dear Carlos Ramos (or secretary for related agencies):

Kindly direct this letter to the appropriate admin assistant. I'll provide such additional information as the assistant requires.

I'm writing because the California Technology Agency accessed particular websites today in tandem with accesses by a particular attorney, John Perrott, or by people with whom the attorney in question is associated.

I'm interested, for reasons that will be explained, in the State-level accesses and would like to discuss them with the appropriate parties.

Mr. Perrott or his people accessed the sites late this morning in their time-zone. Two minutes later, the CTA initiated access. Accesses went back and forth between the two visitors for a few minutes. It's my feeling that the accesses are related.

The context is unusual and worth a minute to explain.

I'm an adult survivor of child abuse who is now approaching 60 years of age. In 2012, my abuser and one brother initiated legal actions against me intended to prevent me from “discussing” past abuse with third parties and from working on a book that they feared would mention the abuse.

The word “discussing” is in a proposed Gag Order that has been posted on the sites your people visited today. My abuser was disconcerted that the Gag Order was posted and demanded a takedown. For what it's worth, I'm #10 now in some Google searches related to the law that he tried to use to get the take­down.

The putative cause of action was fear of physical violence. However, I was in a wheelchair at the time, lived 200 miles from my abuser and 3,000 miles from my brother, and was not even asked not to make phone calls. A cursory review of the legal actions will show that the legal actions were not simply abuse of process, but abuse of process of such a degree that they are moderately embarrassing for the attorneys involved.

My abuser and my brother committed multiple felonies in their attempts to stop the book. I won that part but I lost my life savings and my home of 25 years. This is where John Perrott, San Jose Family Law attorney, enters the picture.

I was not lawfully served in the Gag Order cases and learned of them only days before Court. There was no time to find a real attorney. I settled for one who makes a practice of defrauding clients, a practice that he has a specific name for. He refers to it as “client management”.

It should be noted the attorney in question, John Perrott, works for an alleged sexual harasser, Tom Stutzman, who has been disciplined by the State Bar in connection with inappropriate actions related to a female client.

Mr. Perrott made me do much of the non pro-forma work in the Gag Order Cases. But somehow, even though we never went to trial and he did not even attend my deposition, my bills ended up 50% higher than his estimate for everything including the deposition and the trial.

This was due in part to prosecutable crimes that John Perrott is hereby asserted, publicly, to have committed, including, but not limited to, the crime of fraud.

I asked Mr. Perrott to prepare a Motion to Limit Scope for me. It was supposed to cost $150. Instead, he billed me $3,000 to $5,000 for a document that he said would persuade the Court to have my legal fees paid in advance by my abuser. But when I asked John Perrott about the fees, close to Court, he seemed to have forgotten that he had ever talked about them.

The Court was not impressed with the document and admonished Mr. Perrott for submitting it.

I'm autistic and can perceive details better than you can; if I remember to do so, which is not as easy as you might think. When John received the admonishment, I had the distinct impression that he was about to wet his pants.

Subsequently, John Perrott told me that Court had been a rousing success. When I questioned this, he said that I was “depressive” :-)

Another issue of some significance is possible collaboration by Mr. Perrott and Opposing Counsel with the intent to defraud parties to the Gag Order cases out of thousands of dollars. John Perrott is aware that I possess a copy of a letter which suggests that such a collaboration existed. He knows, as well, that I intend to post the letter online and distribute it directly to activist groups and law enforcement for years to come.

As a related point, Mr. Perrott is withholding records that I am entitled to as he fears that they may send him to jail. Or embarrass him. Attorneys know that they are almost never prosecuted. But embarrassment is real to them.

John is not pleased that I call attention, on a regular basis, to his failure to turn over the records in ques­tion.

It is a letter on that precise subject that the California Technology Agency reviewed today.

John Perrott, Family Law attorney, and his sex-offender boss, Tom Stutzman of Thomas Chase Stutzman, San Jose, have tried before to take down websites that discuss these issues. As have my abuser and my brother. In the course of these attempts, these parties have committed or become involved in multiple felonies.

But each prosecutable crime that they commit gets them in deeper. I guess you could describe it as a “Tar Baby” situation.

The heart of the problem, for these people, is that there is little they or other parties who choose to be­come involved can do to prevent me long-term from legitimate and reasonable communications with third parties.

To be clear, *any* third parties, subject to limits that are well below what these people would prefer. I have a right to research the factors that led these people to commit prosecutable crimes, to seek out third parties who can provide information related to such factors, and to write about the crimes that were committed for years to come.

There is a great deal that wealthy attorneys and wealthy abusers can do in the short term. But long term? Against somebody who intends to spend the next two decades on research intended to promote positive social goals such as reducing abuse of women, abuse of children, and abuse of process?

As a note to John Perrott and to the group of people involved as a whole as opposed to other specific individuals: Get real.

For more information related to the arguably protected purposes involved, feel free to visit the sites again.

To see one list of Legitimate and Reasonable purposes, which is not asserted to be complete, click here.

So, who did John Perrott contact at the California Technology Agency, who at the CTA reviewed the current sites, and what is this about?

It's possible that Mr. Perrott has committed additional prosecutable crimes in this context. I'm interested in documenting such crimes.

Let's talk.

Regards, Robert

P.S. to various reporters:

I'm writing to the California Technology Agency regarding an unusual matter. May I send you or other interested parties copies of the current letter and follow-up correspondence? If so, send me the appropriate addresses.

What are people saying about Thomas Chase Stutzman?

It's a weird thing about the truth: It protects you. What really makes you vulnerable is when you're lying because you're going to get caught. When you tell the truth, there's a strange relief that comes.

John Perrott and Tom Stutzman, you have a typo below. Due to use of the question mark, the text should read “What are people saying”. Sloppy work.

John Perrot Divorce Child Custody etc. cheats clients


150428 Tuesday — By Hook or by Book

Tags: cases kiraly

150428. I received a message on Sunday from Pua Aloalo that read as follows:

Robert, I read it front to back. It's an incredibly powerful narrative. I made copies of it, distributed pages here and there around the house, and will be emailing it out to everyone.

I wanted to say thank you. Our collective history of CZ is incredibly sparse and you've made it so much richer. Thank you.

Ms. Aloalo is referring to an ebook that has been written this year. The ebook will be posted here in due course.

This is not the book that the Kiralys fought to stop. It is, however, the core of perhaps one-quarter of the book.

The abuser Jim Kiraly of 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California; Tom Kiraly, address unknown, but he'll turn up; and other parties tried to suggest repeatedly that a book didn't exist.

When they tried to get a gag order, they put the word book in quotes like this:


as though adding quotes was likely to change anything. Addressing the group of people involved as opposed to individual parties:

You'll be obliged to eat your sh... shoes, b*tches :-) It was a fair amount of work, but I think you'll agree that it was worth it. The ebook, which is the first part of the 'book', will be posted here in May 2015.

Perhaps on Mothers Day.

The photograph below is an illustration from the ebook. The negative was damaged, so some cleanup was done. If you're interested in image processing, click here for details.

The Past and the Future Collide

Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly attend St. Johns Lutheran Church and New Life Pismo.


150427 Monday — Balrog is as Friendly as a Dog

Tags: lotr lott minetest

150427. For Lord of the Rings people, here are two screenshots from Lord of the Test.

For LOTT access information, visit:

The license for the screenshots is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is the Cat Ninja.

Mordor Vacation Paradise

Come to sunny Mordor for your wedding or High-School reunion.

Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton worked for Tom Kiraly of Hanger Inc. but Tom was with Humana or Sheridan Healthcare at the time.

Balrog is as Friendly as a Dog

Lord of the Test has Balrog and the rest.

Eric Holub seems to be visiting this weblog. Grace Kiraly is a false Christian.


150426 Sunday — Needful Things That Study Brings

Tags: webdev

150426. This post is for beginner webdevs.

Blue Dream asked for help today with banner CSS code. This is the example that I came up with:

Michael Bonetto and John Perrott San Jose Family Law collaborated to defraud clients
It's pretty simple but combines an image and text. Here's a mini-tutorial that I wrote on the subject.

This is a sample  CSS file named "style.css".

This file defines CSS classes that can be used to create a simple hor-
izontal banner consisting of an image plus overlaid text.

1. Remember to check the spelling of filenames.  Both the actual names
of files and the paths that you type into code.

2. This file assumes the following website structure:

    peaceful/              - A folder containing the site
    peaceful/index.html    - The main page
    peaceful/css/          - A folder containing CSS files,  including
                             this one
    peaceful/img/          - A folder containing image files

3. You can use the  "header" and  "headertext" classes  defined  below
like this:

    <div class="header">
        <span class="headertext">Blue Dreams Peaceful Seems</span>

This code should go into the body section of "index.html".

4. When you create a CSS class that's going to be used  in a div,  the
class name in the CSS file should start  with a period.  So, for exam-
ple, our code will define ".header" as opposed to "header".

5. You'll  need a  background image for the banner.  This file assumes
that  the image is called  "outside.jpg"  and that  it's stored in the
"img" folder discussed previously.

For a different type of image file or a different filename, modify the
".header" class appropriately.

6. The background image won't  work right unless you specify the other
".header" settings as follows:

For padding-top:  try from 10px to 20px
For height:       try from 40px to 60px
For padding-left: try from  0px to 30px
For width:        try 100%

"height"  doesn't  specify the actual height of the banner. If you add
"padding-top" and "height", this will be the actual height.

.header {
    background-image: url("../img/outside.jpg"); 
    height       : 42px;
    padding-left : 15px;
    padding-top  : 18px;
    width        : 100%;

.headertext {
    background    : #444444;    /* Background color of text */
    color         : #00ccff;    /* Color  of text           */
    font-size     : 20px;       /* Size   of text font      */
    font-style    : italic;     /* italic or normal         */
    font-weight   : normal;     /* bold   or normal         */
    padding-left  : 10px;       /* A little space on left   */
    padding-right : 10px;       /* A little space on right  */


150426 Sunday — In the Mood for Food

Tags: food

150426. Loome, author of the poem Cooking Food, has provided me with the tomatoes photograph below. Note: I don't have attribution information. For a large version of the photo, click here.

Don't they look good? Food is something to be appreciated.

I stopped eating for a year due to fear
Never agains, I eats tomatoes and hens
Thousand-Year Old Eggs on which blogs to pegs
Jim and Grace Kiraly me they tried to starve
Abuse of process up we're going to carve
First let us quench our thirst
Veggies are best and not worst
I'm in the mood for food


You don't need a silver fork to eat good food.

Grace Kiraly of New Life Pismo Church and St. Johns Lutheran worked with Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton to support abuse


150426 Sunday — Minetest dot Org is Nicer than Borg

Tags: minetest

150426. When the Kiraly Gag Order Cases hit their peak in early 2013, I nearly died.

It changed me. More than a little.

In a legitimate and reasonable sense, the context being positive societal goals, these people belong to me now.

Everything that I'd started to build was taken from me. Only fragments of Time are left. But I'll do, as I've always done, what's possible.

There are greater projects and lesser ones
Here is a lesser ones that is funs is back though polish it does lack

Minetest dot Org is Nicer than Borg

The site is back.

Grace Kiraly helped Michael Bonetto, Maggie Desmond, and Alison Buchanan of Hoge Fenon to hurt women and children


150426 Sunday — OldCoder is a Youtube Star Below Par

Tags: minetest

Mason seems as frightening as Jason :P 150426. Here are some more OldCoder Minetest videos produced by Mason.

The first is a YouTube video called OldCoder Lord of the Test: Building a Party House.

I'm not sure that a Party House is consistent with the world's Lord of the Rings theme. But I suppose that flexibility is called for. Perhaps Elves and Balrogs need a place to relax when battles of destiny are done.

The second video is OldCoder Moontest: Mason on the Moon.

Each video is presented below as two pictures. The first picture in each pair is a screenshot and the second is the actual video. To play these videos, you'll need a fast Internet connection and a modern Web browser.

The Moontest video has narration but the soundtrack on the Lord of the Test video is inaudible; I suggest simply muting sound for that one.

All of this reminds me of the times that my brothers and I played with tape recorders, which were hot new consumer electronics gadgets at the time.

Lord of the Test Party House screenshot: Lord of the Test is a Minetest Educational Fest

Lord of the Test Party House live video:

Mason on the Moon screenshot: Moontest is better than the rest

Mason on the Moon live video:


150425 Saturday — Destiny

Tags: destiny sandman

150425. This is Sandman artwork that depicts Destiny of the Endless; a Neil Gaiman character. Destiny is the older Brother of Death.

The paths fork and divide. With each step you take through Destiny's garden, you make a choice; and every choice determines future paths. However, at the end of a lifetime of walking you might look back, and see only one path stretching out behind you; or look ahead, and see only darkness.

The license for the artwork is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Daniel Govar. For a larger version, click here.


It is in your moments of decision that your destiny is shaped.

Tom Kiraly of Hanger Inc. and Hoge Fenton's Michael Bonetto were destined to commit crimes


150419 Sunday — GIMP Fixes Photos with Trickses

Tags: foss gimp

150419. People deprecate the GIMP. The program deserves more love in some contexts. It isn't as capable as Photoshop and release 2.8 has annoyances. However, the GIMP is free, and with the right add-ons, it gets the job done.

Take a look at the before and after example posted below.

The picture is a door painting or poster (I don't recall which) that was at my U.C. Berkeley student residence in the 1970s. The negative was badly damaged, but I was able to repair the picture using the GIMP.

Most scratches, gone. Embedded dirt, removed. Edges, restored. Check it out.

The rocks are soft in the result, but I don't think they're far off from the original painting or poster. A small part of the past is back.

Damaged Photo Before and After

Maggie Desmond of Hoge Fenton has hurt women and children

To do the cleanup, I used primarily these GIMP features and external tools:

* David Tschumperlé's GREYCstoration plug-in. I had to experiment with the plug-in parameters. Additionally, I had to patch the plug-in to make its window shorter; it doesn't fit onto some displays.

However, after I got everything right, this plug-in took out some of the visual noise while preserving details.

* The GIMP Resynthesizer plug-in, by several authors. This plugin is like a can of “Scratches Be Gone” spray. Draw an outline around a scratch, click Heal, and magic happens. I do need to fiddle with the sample range setting sometimes.

* The standard GIMP Blur, Sharpen, and Unsharp Mask commands.

* ImageMagick's convert program. This was used to translate intermediate images quickly and easily into different formats and sizes.

* pnmnorm from NetPBM. This was used to do a contrast adjustment.

The GIMP can adjust contrast, too, of course; but I find that if I use pnmnorm with -bvalue set a bit lower than the program recommends (but not less than 1) and -wvalue set much higher than the program recommends (but not more than 255), the results are often good.


150419 Sunday — New Year Greetings are not Fleetings

Tags: general

150419. The Sinhalese New Year, widely celebrated in Sri Lanka, was in mid-April. Vibhishana, a friend in that country, sent me the New Year greetings shown below.

The imagery symbolizes changes, renewal, and hopes for happiness. Part of the background story is that the Prince of Peace has come to Earth and that Peace has followed.

The relaxed perspective of the people in the picture, their contentment and faith that all is well, stands out for me.

Vibhishana New Year

As part of our renewal, we need to fight problems, not just wait for them to take place.

I don't think that Ken Kiraly met Maggie Desmond or Michael Bonetto of Hoge Fenton Family Law in Santa Clara County


150418 Saturday — In the Mood for Food

Tags: food

150418. Xiaoshi is an Asian woman of my generation who is evaluating startup options in the education sector. The photo below is of a meal that I had recently with Xiaoshi and her husband Bridges.

This is from a class of Chinese-American fusion dishes that I refer to as Harmonious Diversity or:

This example consisted of a Tea Egg and a Thousand Year Old Egg (the black one) combined with salami, avocado, onion, and chicken. This was served with white wine. Delicious.

The license for the photo is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder. For a larger version, click here.

Fusion Dish Harmonious Diversity

Food, in the end, in our own tradition, is something holy. It's not about nutrients and calories. It's about sharing. It's about honesty. It's about identity.

Jim Kiraly hired Hoge Fenton Family Law to implement a gag order


150418 Saturday — Startup Thoughts

Tags: startups

150418. This is a copy of a letter to Xiaoshi:

Xiaoshi, good evening.

The following is an over-simplification. Some of my friends will undoubtedly correct me. However, this is how I see things:

The term “startuper” may be defined strictly or loosely. In a loose sense, a startuper is somebody who'd like to build a venture and to take advantage of opportunities provided by the modern world that allow small projects to scale up to proportions that were unimaginable in the past.

Startupers often think in terms of four things: websites, online communities, developers who work for equity (in other words, for free), and content created by users.

It's possible to make these things part of a startup plan. But many startupers overlook market research, which I define as: “Who's going to give you money?” They think primarily in terms of rapid growth in website numbers. “If there are enough eyeballs,” they say, “Facebook or Google will buy me out. It happened for Instagram.”

In the 1950s, one prospective movie star in 100,000s got somewhere. In the 1960s, one prospective rock-star in 100,000s achieved significant success. In the 1970s, one Steven-King want-to-be in 100,000s had movie producers at his or her door. The odds of Instagram-level success, since 2000, have been little different.

One should not plan on the lightning striking. It's nice to get $1B. But the focus should be on a serious plan.

Startupers tend to disregard other issues as well, such as one that I call Chicken or the Egg. I define this one as: “Your idea is good. But new people are only likely to go to your service if people are already going to your service. How will you get over the hump and get the first 100,000 people to come?”

Startupers dislike this question and some simply wave it away.

But, most of all, some startupers overrate the importance of a good idea and deprecate the importance of resources and of execution.

In your case, resources include experience of different types, credentials, a past patent to show, existing software, and associations that you can build on. You also have more of a plan than most startupers do.

If you consider market research and Chicken or the Egg, and execute one step at one on an Agile basis, creating something useful at each step, you'll build a venture that will bring you some satisfaction.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Nitroniuminc. For a larger version, click here.

Product Launch

There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure.

Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly of Hanger Inc. started up felonies


150418 Saturday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest

150418. Lord of the Test is one of my more unusual worlds. It is, of course, a Lord of the Rings fan world.

I've let Fishy Wet run the world until now. However, he'll be gone for the second half of the year, so I'll need to become more familiar with the place.

Here are some screenshots taken during a recent visit.

The license for the screenshots is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

LOTT Dark Towers

I assume that this is Mordor. Cheerful place.

Alison Buchanan of Hoge Fenton teaches ethics classes

Lord of the Satellite

I was surprised to find a modern satellite, complete with solar panels, in orbit far above Lord of the Test.

Grace Kiraly is considered to be sweet like some poisons

Two LOTT Players

Boy and girl trying out new skins. Getting the right skin is considered important. These two were happy with theirs.

This picture was taken on the satellite a number of miles up. They're standing on the solar panels. Kids like to jump off of the panels. One of them told me that the fall to ground took him about 12 minutes.

Tom Kiraly committed perjury

Snowy Hills of Death

I liked these snowy hills, so I flew in for a closer look. The NPCs shouted “Die!” and shot me with arrows.

Hoge Fenton's Maggie Desmond works with Family Law attorney Michael Bonetto

Medieval Teleporter

This seems to be a teleporter facility for one of the Lord of the Test Guilds.

Ken Kiraly, we have unfinished business

LOTT Castle Detail

This is what Tom Kiraly, Ken Kiraly, and I had in mind when we built with L*go ® and wood blocks about 45 years ago.

Hoge Fenton has not answered questions related to its handling of the Jim Kiraly Gag Order Cases


150418 Saturday — I see IRC

Tags: babies cats irc microsoft

150418. Phenek is dealing with transitions and a project that involves Microsoft:

<Phenek> good night Bob :)
<OldCoder> Move will have annoyances
<OldCoder> It will be over soon
<OldCoder> You'll reduce clutter
<OldCoder> You'll look at options

<Phenek> I will be zenlike
<Phenek> uncluttered
<OldCoder> Do not stress over Microsoft issues

Hoge Fenton, Family Law also employs Alison Buchanan and Maggie Desmond Microsoft I'm leaving
I won't be grieving
For Microsoft users horror awaits
This is their fates
But quick like a bunny
I'll go to Malta sunny
Microsoft I'll put behind me

<Phenek> it would take bunny long time to travel to malta
<OldCoder> Literalist :P
<OldCoder> Good night o/
<Phenek> :D
<Phenek> good night

150418. Vulnerability:

Ken Kiraly of Amazon is Tom Kiraly's brother <mrmeow> read this article about the vet who killed a cat with an arrow
<OldCoder> I don't want to read it. Not today.
<mrmeow> probably a good idea
<mrmeow> poor cat

<OldCoder> I'm getting better at writing. Writing about matters like this.
<OldCoder> I have feelings related to the vulnerable

Cats are presumptuous but vulnerable. They assume that they're safe and cared for. It comes as a shock to them when they end up feral.

<OldCoder> It's difficult to meet a feral cat who doesn't understand what's happened
<mrmeow> ya

150418. Babies are interesting:

<Metacognician> I remember having a quite cute little baby that didn't do much
<OldCoder> And now?
<OldCoder> Your memories are delusional

I won't have one of these; Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly have prevented it <Metacognician> Now there's this little human with very strong opinions about pretty much everything
<OldCoder> He was a loud baby, wasn't he?
<Metacognician> Six months and he has all these new features
<OldCoder> Of course. He can run apps, by the way.

<Metacognician> He wants to stand, wants to eat our food, etc.
<Metacognician> Oh, he does. But his hands have become more dynamic, he has a soft and a hard grip already...
<OldCoder> Give him an Android. Make sure he doesn't eat it.
<Metacognician> ...can touch my face without hurting me


150418 Saturday — Letter to Sequoia High School

Tags: cases kiraly

150418. Copy of a letter to staff at Sequoia High School:

1201 Brewster Avenue
Redwood City, CA 94602
(650) 367-9780

ATTN: Mr. Priest and others at Sequoia High School

Dear Mr. Priest,

I'm the older Brother of Ken Kiraly, the Father of two of your students, Paul Kiraly and James Kiraly.

There is no need for significant communications at this time. However, for reasons that will be clear to anybody who reviews the situation, I take care these days to communicate some things unambiguously and to document communications in some cases.

First, I'm impressed with Paul Kiraly's accomplishments. He strikes me as similar to Akhil Amar, a former classmate of mine. Akhil is not a friend, to be clear. We haven't spoken in decades. But I've been thinking about his role in my life. And Paul is an Akhil-type. He's on a similar trajectory.

I'm more interested in the fact that James Kiraly (your James as opposed to his Grandfather James) has been encouraged to be what he's meant to be. I have some familiarity with related issues.

In the event that you know James Kiraly, the student, and have wondered about the genetics involved, it seems possible that he takes after me as opposed to his Father Ken Kiraly of Amazon Lab126.

I'm the one who taught Ken on the software side, though he was the hardware expert in the family. I don't know James personally so I can't speak authoritatively but he seems to be different than Ken.

One of my hacker kids, about the same age as James, was in the robot competition with James and suggested to me that he walk up and introduce himself. I told him no; the suggestion was premature. But I'm glad to see that geek kids are shown more respect these days.

We had contests too, 45 years ago, but school was less than entirely positive for geek kids. I was beaten unconscious, had one hand placed in a door and the door slammed shut, was struck with objects of different types, and generally not allowed to relax much. One friend, ironically now the head of a school district, had multiple bones broken and needed to leave school for a while.

Some schools and districts have standard things that they say to survivors of physical violence. I think that districts print them on What to Say sheets. The gist of it is “Oh, that's all in the past”. But it isn't in the past.

I read news stories which suggest that some school districts not only condone but support physical violence against children who are different. The South Fayette High School case in 2014 is one example. I trust, though, that your school is more progressive and that you discourage this sort of thing.

The physical violence that I experienced at school is relevant to this correspondence as my life at home, and the life of the Father of two of your students, was also less than completely enjoyable.

Living years with actual physical violence and the constant risk of physical violence both at home and at school can reshape the life of a child. The events of decades ago, in this case, have echoed down the years to a current situation and the echoes will need to be addressed.

The reasons that I'm writing to you are connected to a website that has received visits from Sequoia High School.

The page visited most recently was Page 52, which included a post that discussed Paul and James. The logical conclusion is that Paul, James, or their associates at school are reviewing what I say about the two boys.

The website in question was born during litigation of an unusual nature.

The boys' Grandfather Jim Kiraly, the one who may be listed in school paperwork as residing at 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, California, was a spouse and child abuser. This is not contested. If Kiraly family members are asked, there will be plenty of sound bites and dancing about, but Jim is unlikely to deny specifics under oath.

In 2012, Jim Kiraly the elder (as opposed to your James Kiraly) and the boys' Uncle Tom Kiraly sought to impose a gag order upon me to prevent the writing of a book that they feared would mention past abuse.

In fact, the book was intended to be a positive work related to evolutionary psychiatry and relationships. However, I was not asked about this.

Two related interviews that I conducted, most importantly one with the Pastor of a Church, enraged Paul Kiraly's and James Kiraly's (the robot-maker James as opposed to the abuser James) Grandfather.

It should be noted that the Pastor in question was Grace Kiraly's Pastor, Grace Kiraly being the boys' Grandmother. Grace Kiraly gave me permission to speak with her Pastor, I scheduled the interview in advance, and the interview was positive and productive.

But as I have learned, and as you should teach your students, facts are of little consequence if they are inconvenient for wealthy people.

At the time, Jim Kiraly (the adult psychotic as opposed to the High School student) and Tom Kiraly discussed plans to charge me with “blackmail” though they faced the regrettable barrier that I had not done anything inappropriate. Subsequently, they became involved in prosecutable crimes of multiple types, including but not limited to felonies.

As a result of the legal actions and of the felonies, I lost my home of 25 years, job opportunities, my health, and most of my possessions. Jim and Tom will, of course, face legitimate and reasonable consequences for the rest of their lives. However, I assume that this is sufficient background information.

I had not addressed communications specifically to the boys. However, as they or their friends at Sequoia High School seem to be reading my website, I feel that it is appropriate to offer context.

Accordingly, it is my intention to post a public letter to Paul Kiraly and his Brother James Kiraly (the presumably non-violent teenager opposed to the aging wife beater) at some point this year.

The specific purpose of this letter, the current one addressed to you, is two-fold:

1. If you have questions or comments related to aspects of the matter that may be relevant to the policies or interests of Sequoia High School, you may communicate with me. Or you may visit the websites in question.

The email address on this letter may not work as the Kiralys have been working with a black-hat in Dallas, Texas since mid-2013 to DDOS websites and possibly to shut down email addresses. However, it is easy to locate both the websites and email addresses as explained below.

2. This letter has been posted publicly. So, you may receive requests from Ken Kiraly or his Wife Virginia Chang Kiraly (the political type who was involved in the cellphone theft kerfuffle) to see to it that my website (actually, there are numerous domains involved) is blocked from view at Sequoia High School.

The issue is not of great interest to me. However, it is suggested that your IT people communicate with me prior to the undertaking of such a step. Upon the initiation of such communication, I'll explain to the IT people the legitimate and reasonable steps that I'll take in response.

Ken Kiraly, the boys' Father, and other Kiralys suggested in Court filings that I had unusual abilities in network contexts. Actually, they characterized me as a sort of Insane Satan. I'd like to be clear that this was nonsense.

Whatever Ken Kiraly may tell you, I have no mystic powers. It was based on nothing more than feverish delusions on Jim Kiraly's (the volunteer worker who should not be around young people) part.

And on Ken's speculation that I'd used black magic to leave voicemail in mailboxes at Amazon Lab126. But a bright chimpanzee could have done it.

In your case, it appears that the school may be using a blacklist as opposed to a whitelist. If it's a whitelist, then some of your brighter students have learned about tunnels or similar measures. Not proxies, because the accesses are being routed through your network.

At any rate, if Sequoia High students notify me that I'm being blacklisted, I'll explain some additional technical points to you.

In conclusion, to locate the website (actually, websites), Google for any of the following sets of keywords. Any of these lines should work; just type them into Google. Double quotes should not be used:

  1. Jim Kiraly Abuser
  2. Tom Kiraly Idiot
  3. Ken Kiraly Sociopath
  4. Grace Kiraly Harlot
  5. Gail Cheda Spittle
  6. Maggie Desmond Spousal Abuse
  7. Kerechanko (only one word is needed in this case)

For those reading this letter at the websites, these are live links, go ahead and try them out.

To obtain email addresses, go to the websites and visit the Contact page.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)


150417 Friday — Hedgehog Brigade

Tags: general

150417. I've been provided with photos of a Hedgehog Brigade. These are the last surviving members of a band of Hedgehogs that in years past engaged in a number of difficult missions of importance to the Free World.

Retired now, the Hedgehogs have no regrets. The cost was high, but they look back with satisfaction on a career filled with duty and honor.

The license for the photos is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Combustion Engine.

Hedgehog Brigade

Sweet is the memory of distant friends. Like the mellow rays of the departing sun, it falls tenderly, yet sadly, on the heart.

John Perrott of Thomas Chase Stutzman will steal from you


150417 Friday — Mind and Body Overlap

Tags: body illusion mind

150417. We live in our minds and our minds are in our bodies:

<OldCoder> Describe one of these incidents
<CodeTaster> Well, I guess I was walking from classroom to work with my eyes widely open. Then I saw a cube that had to be 100% unreal. When I left and came back, it disappeared.

<OldCoder> You perceived a cube, though
<CodeTaster> I saw it close range
<OldCoder> When did this happen?
<CodeTaster> This one did happen 2010
<OldCoder> Time of day?
<CodeTaster> 12:00 to 14:00

<OldCoder> This was simply a college day, ho hum, walk from class. Then there's a cube.

<OldCoder> What did it look like?
<CodeTaster> There was music on it. It had no color. It was like a soap bubble who keeps changing through the entire rainbow.

<OldCoder> How large was this object?
<CodeTaster> I'd say it was the size of a crouched person.

<OldCoder> Was it simply floating there?
<CodeTaster> It was “parked” near a tree. On the ground. The tree was real.

<OldCoder> Did you walk past it?
<CodeTaster> I stood circa 5 mins looking at that strange object. I walked away. I went up to the end of the street. Came back 30 seconds later. Nothing was there but the tree.

<CodeTaster> I was very, very tired that day. I guess I had overworked.

<OldCoder> A large cube. Translucent with music on it. It did not fade. Eventually, you shrugged and walked away. You came back and it was gone.

<OldCoder> How often has this sort of thing happened?
<CodeTaster> As often as my tiredness. That year, plenty times. Mostly audio hallucinations.

<OldCoder> When these occurrences were happening, were you able to tell, by the nature of the experience, that others would not be able to see or hear what you were seeing or hearing?

<CodeTaster> Well, in the cube case I couldn't tell until I did leave the scene...
<OldCoder> It was that “real”
<CodeTaster> ...then it occurred me that no singing box would be left alone near a tree in an urban area.

<OldCoder> And other occurrences? Indistinguishable from physical reality?
<CodeTaster> Well... some of them clearly looked fake

<OldCoder> Fake?
<CodeTaster> But then, I think they are on the level that everyone has. Optical ilusions. Except that they endure until I rethink what I am seeing.

<OldCoder> So, multiple times you have seen or heard things that are not real...
<CodeTaster> I guess it depends on how much my brain understands what I see

<OldCoder> the point that you can identify them as such only by reason?
<CodeTaster> Yes

<CodeTaster> There is the worst case that I didn't tell
<OldCoder> Tell it

Post continues below the illustration. For a larger version, click here. The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is FantasyLost.

We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

Tom Kiraly worked with Jim Kiraly and Ken Kiraly to create an illusion

<CodeTaster> It was a horrible experience.
<CodeTaster> Here in 2014 I was walking home. It was a slightly sunny day. It seemed it would rain, but only in a hour or two. So, I decided to rush through an open field. Taking too much time would make me catch rain, so I did take this shortcut.

<CodeTaster> That day I had studied hard, and walked long distances. So, I was on the fringes.

<CodeTaster> Then, while on this open field, I walking through a small portion of tall grass. Suddenly I felt I had disturbed a swarm of insects. And they were attacking my face by passing by it. They didn't spike me... They just...

<OldCoder> Buzzed up against you?
<CodeTaster> Yeah... Like a group of butterflies would do
<CodeTaster> Unlike bees, they would spread on your face without spiking it

<OldCoder> This was not real?
<CodeTaster> They were all purple and dotted in black
<CodeTaster> I found it so real that I had to cover my face with my arm

<OldCoder> Did they seem hostile?
<CodeTaster> I tried to shoo them, but it seems as more as I fought, as more of them appeared. I thought that they were going to blind me...

<CodeTaster> You know... If you touch a butterfly with your hands and scratch your eyes, their... pollen, is this word correct? Their pollen can blind you.

<OldCoder> But they were not attacking?
<CodeTaster> Well... I felt attacked
<CodeTaster> They made noise and went on my face... Whether it was accidental or an attack, I couldn't tell. So, I assumed it was an attack.

<OldCoder> The bugs themselves didn't care?
<CodeTaster> They didn't seem to be rational and communicative as a “fake man” would be
<CodeTaster> They were just so many and so numerous that they formed a dense cloud

<OldCoder> You kept walking?
<CodeTaster> I covered my face and charged. I ran forward, thinking that I had to break the path. The type of thing I would do if I was surrounded by a mob, right?

<CodeTaster> I only found out how dumb I was being when I did trip and fell to the ground. Then I looked back and all I saw was my bag lying there. And no insects nearby.

<CodeTaster> It was like nothing happened
<CodeTaster> After two minutes taking my breath I took my bag and continued my path

Post continues below the illustration. For a larger version, click here. The license for the illustration is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is julXart.

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.

Grace Kiraly, Ken Kiraly, and Michael Bonetto were involved in a San Jose Family Law CLETS action

<OldCoder> You said that such things happened when you were more “tired”
<CodeTaster> Yeah
<CodeTaster> On my own view, I think getting tired makes my brain feeling dificulties to comprehend the world. And then I start “filling the blanks”.

<OldCoder> Yes. You understand that this is how dreams work? This is what a dream is.
<OldCoder> Some people experience these events shortly *before* falling asleep
<CodeTaster> But there is a difference between hallucination and my dreams

<OldCoder> This is a CVH
<CodeTaster> CVH?
<OldCoder> Complex Visual Hallucination as opposed to SVH for Simple
<CodeTaster> So, there is a name for it?

<OldCoder> Any barbituate use, epilepsy, Parkinson's disease?
<CodeTaster> No
<CodeTaster> Does polaramine count? Anti-allergic stuff. Makes a man very sleepy.
<CodeTaster> On the cube's day, I took it. On the butterflies' day, I did not.

<OldCoder> This condition is not one, but dozens. It's not insanity in and of itself...
<CodeTaster> So... It can happen to anyone?

<OldCoder> ...but a symptom of what may be a lesion on a nerve, damaged eyesight, or Parkinson's disease. Or insanity.
<OldCoder> It can happen to people who are not insane at all. And it can happen to those who are. Damaged eyesight... Problems with the nerves...

<CodeTaster> So, technically everyone is vulnerable... As long as [...] happens.

<OldCoder> We're all vulnerable to everything
<OldCoder> You may have a neurological disorder, a mental illness, deteriorating eyesight, Parkinson's Disease.

<OldCoder> This condition may be related to insanity. But insanity is only one possible issue. There other issues that are less serious. In short, I can't tell you that you are “all right”...

<CodeTaster> I'm not sure about Parkinson's of the eyesight, as I am healthy by that. But neurological disorder...

<OldCoder> I *can* tell you, it's premature to be terrified. Go to sleep. Don't talk to normals about this. Seek medical care when you can...
<CodeTaster> When I was a baby (2 year old, 2.5 more precise) I did collide my bike and flew from it

<OldCoder> ...from a doctor that you trust. Get more rest. And driving...
<CodeTaster> People said I would be ok and said “no harm done”

<OldCoder> You must assess whether or not it's safe to drive. But see if the condition can be diagnosed, identified, and improved.
<CodeTaster> I don't like driving...
<OldCoder> All right
<CodeTaster> the point I refused to take license

<OldCoder> You're not “insane”. Possibly at risk of it.
<OldCoder> You see CVHs. The CVHs aren't the insanity. They live in the place where your mind and your body overlap.

<OldCoder> You may have any of several conditions. Rest, don't talk to normals about this, and seek doctors that you trust.


150415 Wednesday — Selfie from Space

Tags: general

150415. A British artist tells me that the photo below is a “selfie” that was taken from space.

I've done some work on the photo. No noise reduction was needed, but I removed strands of external hair or cloth that were on the camera lens or intermediate physical copies. I also eliminated a number of jaggies. To do so, I used the GIMP and the tools discussed at this link.

The license for the photo is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Infiniti Warrior.

Selfie from Space

The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls.

John Perrot and Tracie Zerr work in San Jose Family Law at Thomas Chase Stutzman


150414 Tuesday — Repaired Wish Comic

Tags: gimp humor

150414. The comic below is well-known and already out there. However, the copies I've seen are faded and damaged due to overcompression. So, here's a version that's a little better. Note: I don't have attribution information.

Repaired Wish Comic

Be careful of what you wish for, you might get it.

James Kiraly of Pismo Beach was the Father of Tom Kiraly of Sheridan Healthcare


150413 Monday — Sandman Fan Man is not Also-ran

Tags: comics

150413. This Sandman fan comic popped up during a search for Creative Commons illustrations related to illusions. The woman is Death and the man is her younger Brother Morpheus, the Lord of Dreams.

The license for the comic is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is Kish-M.

Dream and Death

Our life dreams the Utopia. Our death achieves the Ideal.

Michael Bonetto, Hoge Fenton Family Law, dreamed of committing abuse of process


150410 Friday — OldCoder is a Youtube Star Below Par

Tags: minetest

Mason seems as frightening as Jason :P 150410. Somebody has posted a Youtube video set in Lord of the Test. Don't expect car chases and special effects. It's simply a tutorial by, I gather, a player named Mason.

The first picture below is a screenshot. The second picture is the video. To play the video, you'll need a fast Internet connection and a modern Web browser.

Skip the first minute or two, Mason needs to edit the slow start.

Lord of the Test is a Minetest Educational Fest


150409 Thursday — Vengeance

Tags: general

150409. The image below is a fan modification of a poster for the movie Into Darkness.

Note: The original poster was copyrighted but the fan's work falls under Fair Use and my redistribution of the Fair Use modification is probably protected as well.

I'm entitled to go against public opinion as I've been watching Star Trek for 50 years. The movie isn't as good as current fans say. The 1982 film on which it's based, Wrath of Khan, is superior.

The latest actors are good enough, but Khan's behavior towards the end of the remake isn't consistent with the character that's been established. And, in the new story, Spock hasn't known Kirk long enough to be as moved by Kirk's death as Kirk was moved by Spock's death in the original story.

But the context of Vengeance, which the film compares to Darkness, is of interest.

Khan Noonien Singh is an enraged figure, cast against his will into an unwanted role, who has both the intention to exact vengeance and the ability to do so. In what sense are his “choices” right and in what sense are they wrong?

The question goes beyond the film-maker's desire to create an interesting character. Perhaps it's time, as society evolves, to examine reflexive assumptions related to fictional heroes and villains.

These are painted models put on display, in part, to reinforce artificial standards, standards intended to encourage blind obedience to the established order.

If the established order is false, if it's like Animal Farm and the powers that be mock the abuse of processes that are there to protect the citizen, what loyalty is owed to the order?

Additionally, why should legitimate and reasonable vengeance be compared to darkness? Is it possible that “Vengeance” is a synonym for “Truth”, which is the Way and the Light? Should the Star Trek film have been titled, Into the Light?

For a larger version of the illustration, click here.

Into the Light

Throughout the ages, Christians have adapted John of Patmos's visions to changing times, reading their own social, political and religious conflicts into the cosmic war he so powerfully evokes. Yet his Book of Revelation appeals not only to fear and desires for vengeance but also to hope.

Grace Kiraly, Maggie Desmond, and Tracie Zerr Family Law are of Darkness

150406 Monday — GIMP Toolbox Rocks

Tags: code foss

150404. This post is for Linux CLI hackers who use GIMP 2.8. GIMP 2.8 is O.K. except for two things:

* Release 2.8 doesn't let you Save As to any format but XCF. This is annoying.

* It can be difficult to get the GIMP 2.8 toolbox into usable shape. The program lets you dock pieces to build toolboxes of different types, but it isn't an intuitive process.

Jim Kiraly hired Michael Bonetto to commit Abuse of Process I can't fix the first issue. However, I thought I'd share my GIMP 2.8 sessionrc file to help with the second one.

My toolbox is shown to the right. It's similar to the GIMP 2.6 toolbox, but has more features. If you'd like a similar setup, proceed as follows:

1. Download the text file at this link.

2. Rename the file to: sessionrc

3. If you're in GIMP, close the program.

4. At a CLI prompt, execute commands similar to these:

mkdir -p $DIR
cp -p /tmp/sessionrc $DIR/

Substitute the appropriate path for: /tmp/

5. Restart GIMP.

6. If anything goes wrong, close the program, delete the copy of sessionrc that you created in step 4, and restart the program.

To submit corrections or comments, use the contact information at this link.


150404 Saturday — Code Fix is Better Than Bricks

Tags: code foss

150404. This post is for Linux CLI hackers.

In 2014, there was a known issue with clang 3.5 related to gcc 4.9. Specifically, if clang 3.5 was used in conjunction with gcc 4.9, you'd get error messages related to max_align_t.

The issue was supposedly fixed. Metacognician tells me that it isn't an issue in Gentoo. However, it turned up for me with clang 3.6.0 and gcc 4.9.2.

Web searches turned up no fix except for the one that had been made to clang 3.5. So, I'm testing the patch discussed below. If you run into the same issue, let me know if the patch works for you or not. The contact page is here.

1. Locate the cstddef file associated with your copy of gcc.4.X.

2. Apply the following patch:

--- cstddef.old
+++ cstddef
@@ -48,7 +48,9 @@
 namespace std
   // We handle size_t, ptrdiff_t, and nullptr_t in c++config.h.
+#ifndef __clang__
   using ::max_align_t;

The patch file may be downloaded at this link.


150404 Saturday — FOSS Games Deserve Fames

Tags: foss games

150404. I'm distracted.

I've been occupied since 2012 with abuse of process committed by Jim Kiraly of 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, CA; Tom Kiraly, address unknown, but he'll turn up; Michael Bonetto and Maggie Desmond of Hoge Fenton, and others.

Details such as learning how to be a transient have my attention as well.

Time is gone; time that could have been invested in productive endeavours. Well, at least the positive purposes of the rest of my life, and the lives of the others, are defined. For the benefit of attorneys and other interested parties, the purposes are discussed in the legitimate purposes list.

I haven't been able to keep up with developments in the FOSS arena. But I've resumed maintenance of my Linux distro and I'll post tips I've learned in the process. I'm looking at what's going on with old packages and reviewing new ones.

Graphics are improving for some games. Here's a screenshot from legacy TuxKart followed by one from the current Subversion release. Linux isn't intended to compete with Windows in 3D games, but it's clear that Linux is building a decent collection.

<MrMeow> supertuxkart is the best game ever made
<MrMeow> dat gnu
<OldCoder> They have an actual Gnu?
<MrMeow> yes. it gets abducted in story mode.
<OldCoder> Richard Stallman to the rescue?
<MrMeow> no, tux

The license for the screenshots is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

TuxKart Old School

Scene from the Oliver's Math Class level of tuxkart 0.4.0.

Maggie Desmond's and Grace Kiraly's fight for abuse has left me without much time for games

TuxKart New School

Scene from the Gnu story in tuxkart SVN Spring 2015.

Alison Buchanan teaches ethics, this seems odd


150401 Wednesday — Minetest is Best

Tags: minetest

150401. I visited Moontest tonight and found some nice alien plants growing in a lunar greenhouse. Also a building that might be a robot or vice versa. The cow is there because I turned Moontest into MOOntest for April Fools Day.

The license for the screenshots is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND 3.0. For attribution purposes, the rights-holder is OldCoder.

Lunar Flowers Fantasy Empowers

I'm not certain whether these are plants or crystals, but they seem more plant-like.

Maggie Desmond is sympathetic to the abuse of women such as Grace Kiraly

Building or Bot is the Thought

The cow is there to turn Moontest into MOOntest for April Fools Day.

Alison Buchanan is Hoge Fenton's ethics specialist


150331 Tuesday — Toolbars Take You Fars

Tags: code firefox iceweasel toolbars

150331. This post is intended for Linux CLI hackers.

Mozilla likes to break things. Such as the toolbar order that God has ordained :P

Firefox and I go back a ways
In the olden daze
Firefox did amaze
But for fixes I often prays
Here's one no shades of grays
Perhaps somedays it you will praise

Recently, after an Iceweasel upgrade, I noticed that my toolbars were no longer in the right order. I tried using Customize Toolbars to move them, and this worked, but the changes couldn't be saved.

I figured this that was a bug. But, no, it was a feature. Mozilla likes to tease you. “We'll let you fix things, but not save the changes. It's funnier that way.”

It turns out that the right way to fix the problem is to edit userChrome.css, which some of you are familiar with. Here's what I did. If your own toolbars insist on rejecting the natural order of things, perhaps this will help.

* I located my Iceweasel profile directory. This was the folder that contained the Iceweasel prefs.js file.

* I created a subdirectory named chrome in the profile directory.

* I created a text file named userChrome.css in the chrome subdirectory and edited it to look as shown below.

* I restarted my browser and enjoyed blissful toolbar sanity.

If you'd like to reorganize your own Firefox or Iceweasel toolbars, similar changes might work for you. However, guarantees are for toasters as opposed to software.

BTW The Real UA dropdown in the screenshot is part of a UA masker. More of the Kiraly Family Proxy Friends who visit these sites ought to use these.

@namespace url("");

/* The following two statements proved not to be needed but  remain */
/* for reference.                                                   */

/* #toolbar-menubar { -moz-box-ordinal-group:    1 !important }     */
/* #nav-bar         { -moz-box-ordinal-group:    1 !important }     */

/* This Firefix (or IceWeasel) userChrome CSS code puts my toolbars */
/* in the order that I prefer them,  Bookmarks  above PrefBar above */
/* Tabs.                                                            */

#PersonalToolbar    { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 1000 !important }
#prefbar            { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 2000 !important }
#TabsToolbar        { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 3000 !important }

Toolbars Proper Order

Maggie Desmond worked for Michael Bonetto


150331 Tuesday — April Fools Eve

Tags: cases kiraly

150331. Tonight, April Fools Eve, is the seven-year anniversary of a return. A return that was the start of a new journey. No rest, really, in decades.

It's been quite a trip. But there's one more arc to travel. The person traversing the arc is different. It will be interesting to see what's accomplished.


150330 Monday — Mobile Madness

Tags: humor

150330. I received the photo below yesterday. It makes a point related to mobile devices.

The photo isn't original; it's appeared elsewhere. I don't have attribution information.

Completely Logical

Did I mention that Michael Bonetto and Maggie Desmond assisted with felonies?


150329 Sunday — To Coder Song I Belong

Tags: cases kiraly poetry song

150329. I'll be traveling or otherwise occupied at times. However, Christ Follower posts will be more regular for the next few months.

For a while, now, I've experienced rhythm when I write. It's manifested as doggerel (woof) that simply appears.

The doggerel isn't necessarily good but it often comes out in close to final shape, sometimes in seconds. I assume that this is common for normals, but it's unusual for me.

Here's a few fragments written in the last week or two. I couldn't call them high art, but people seem to like them.

1. I know a data-entry person, Lorelei, who spends hours at a time typing “batches” of data. She was overworked recently. This song was written to cheer her up:


Batches are the peak
Of their merits we speak
Batches are our friends
On Batches we depends

Loads of fun
No need to point a gun
Cuddly and cute
Do not Batches shoot

Batch all day
Batch all night
Nothing is astray
In the Lord's mighty sight

Batch all day
For prices we pray
Batch all night
No need for fright

Batches are swell
Profits ring the bell
Batches are our friends
On Batches we depends

2. Earlier this year, the manager of a student residence in Berkeley, California asked me to write about my years at Ridge Project. I'm assembling the story and I've added a few little songs. Here's one that sums things up:


John Perrott and Alison Buchanan are Feral Attorneys For decades, I paid a price
For nothing that I received
In the end, I was deceived

I'm not nice
This needs to be understood
Look under the hood
I'm the Feral Coder now

I won the right to write
To write is to shed the light
Say what one is going to say
I write each night
I write each day

This is what is left to me now
Things to say before final bow

Here is the message to you from me
Those who judge right and true
Based on what people do
As opposed to what they're perceived to be
Who embrace diversity

Who accept the constitutive other
These are the ones to call your Brother
Put aside God above
These are the ones to value and to love

3. std::vector, my Belarus friend, and I discussed the Kiralys and choices today. This is my take on the subject. It simply appeared as I typed.

<OldCoder> Did you arrive safely?
<std::vector> I did
<OldCoder> This is because you made the choice not to be attacked by bandits. It is a sensible choice.
<std::vector> I believe I tried to be in moment

Ken Kiraly's integrity is questionable DO NOT THEIR CHOICES TAKE

If in the moment means float
float is good for a boat
but do not talk by rote

The world is both us and others
You can choose your brothers
but choices too they must make
even if it is in Hell to bake

You must not from them their choices take
If in the fire lake they wish to bake
do not their choices take
Let them choose and then awake

Their choices are theirs and theirs alone
It's time now to hang up the phone

<std::vector> It is a nice one
<std::vector> I could want to read it again tomorrow
<OldCoder> With it, then, you do not pick a bone :P

4. This is a birthday greeting for an acquaintance who's a Windows IT person:


Birthday, Nick?
I'll comment, right quick
You're only as old as you feel

Of course, I feel old
Better to feel bold than old
To feel bold has appeal

In the centuries down the road
No need to forbode
You're sure to keep it real

5. This is from the U.C. Berkeley story mentioned above:

In recent years, I've learned that Bob Westrup, a boy I used to play chess with, was gay and others were as well. If my Brother Scott Kiraly or my parents Jim Kiraly or Grace Kiraly were to talk to me again about gays burning in Hell, I'd say this:


God doesn't revile gays, up your ass goes your song
He'd revile you; He doesn't, though, because He can't perceive you
You are the failed crop, the seed that came up wrong
You hate the different, you are not to be treasured or even measured
You are the chaff, the part that does not belong


150329 Sunday — Storm Chasers

Tags: anecdote

150329. I won't get to have children or grandchildren now. Jim Kiraly and Grace Kiraly killed my children; their own grandchildren.

I do get to tell funny stories about ancestors who aren't mine to grandchildren who aren't mine.

Fortunately, I like telling stories.

<SirWilson> the weather fascinates me
<SirWilson> and it would be cool to work at the NWS
<SirWilson> I plan on getting my amateur radio license this summer
<SirWilson> as well as taking a storm spotting class
<SirWilson> so I can join skywarn and report tornadoes etc.
<SirWilson> different side of me I guess

<SirWilson> srsly oldcoder I may end up doing this
<SirWilson> of all things

<SirWilson> idk if I ever told you this
<SirWilson> but I have gone storm chasing most of my life
<SirWilson> dad takes me out and we attempt to find a tornado
<SirWilson> never seen one irl ... we were never lucky enough I guess
<SirWilson> oh well

<OldCoder> DNA the Elderly Attorney. Guess what his Father liked to do, back in the 1930s.

Imagine storms rushing across Texas
Coming to smash and kill
What is the logical thing to do
If you'd like a thrill?

<OldCoder> His Father was part-Indian, so he'd listen to static on the radio and say...
<SirWilson> yes

<Father> I'm part-Indian and so I know
<Father> Where the deadly storm will go
<Father> Boys, on now with the show
<Father> Into the truck, a storm I must know

<Boys> Wheeeee
<Father> Let us go and try
<Father> Very hard not to die
<Father> If I guess wrong, into Hell we go
<Boys> Wheeeee
<Mother> Geez, you idiot

<OldCoder> They rode the edge of the storms. The boys loved it. Their Mother, not so much. :P


140313 Thursday — What Happens to Older Developers?

Tags: general
A full Kiraly Cases tags system will be added in 2014.

This post is old but will remain on the front page for the time being.

140313. Jeff Jenkins posted these questions and others recently at Ask Hacker News:

What happens to older developers? Is there a plateau in pay? Is there a drop in pay switching jobs after a certain number of years? Is becoming a specialist rather than a generalist the answer?

To read the original post, click here. Note: The link was valid as of March 2014. However, it may have broken since then.

This is my response:

Developers who go on long enough are expected to obtain high-level titles by their 50s or to retire at about that time.

I'd like to discuss an issue that you might not have thought about: What's going to happen if you lose your job?

Employment in the 50s can be problematic. If somebody is skilled and employed, and has a high-level title or is a specialist or has useful connections, they should be able to obtain a new position.

Otherwise, they might go from well-off to homeless. It happens. I'm 55, my resume is pretty good, and I was worth $1M a decade ago. I'm a transient now. I've got some medical issues, no medical care, and no dentists. Potential jobs are largely unskilled physical labor, which I'm not able to do.

I'm taking a shot at tutoring. However, I don't expect that to provide more than gas money. The head of an admin assistant firm said that I can't be a secretary unless I already am one.

Two people considered sending me to care for elderly relatives, but we didn't proceed. My title at one of those positions was going to be “poop scooper”.

Don't let this happen to you. For what it's worth, here's my advice:

1. Don't fall off of the employment ladder.

2. Become a specialist. Try to remain broad enough, though, that you don't become obsolete.

3. Build a network of people. Make it a large one.

4. Diversify your investments.

5. While you're employed, don't let medical issues, even minor ones, go untreated for long. If you lose your job and your assets, you'll lose medical care too and the issues may become serious.

6. Be kind to people. But don't be a fool. Most people that you help are not going to return the favor.

Regarding specialists, I did recruiting for a while in 2011 and I can confirm that the filters are weighted against generalists.

I've spent about 35 years myself as a generalist. My jobs called for it. The place where I spent most of my career took any project that came along, code of any type. At a dot-com that followed, after the money ran out, I handled all of the technical roles; IT, websites, development, support, documentation, etc. I was able to do a bit of everything.

Later on, none of this made a difference. There are few job listings that say “a bit of everything”.

After the dot-com shut down, 2003, I made $1M in the stock market. Lost most of it afterwards and reentered the job market. Learned that middle-age generalists were not in high demand.

In my case, there were other factors that won't apply to you. It's a story for another time. But if you're a generalist who falls off of the ladder in middle age, you can expect things like this:

“With a resume like that, why isn't he a CTO? Why doesn't he even have a job?”

You'll be asked questions about algorithms that you haven't thought about for 30 years. Or you'll go through coding tests under adverse conditions that don't allow you to show what you can do.

Plan ahead. Understand that the best-laid schemes of mice and men often go awry.

My own resume is located at:

These are my links. Yes, the technical site needs Twitter Bootstrap :P

  1. Technical site (
  2. My GitHub
  3. My LinkedIn
  4. My Twitter
  5. OldCoder Nerdcore Song

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

The illustration is distributed under the following license: Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 Generic. For attribution purposes, the rights holder is Ell Brown. For more information about the license, click here.

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