What is this site?

Haggis Hell is the personal weblog of Robert Kiraly, aka OldCoder, a software developer for 40 years. It started due to an unusual pair of gag-order cases that ran from 2012 to 2013, but it collects threads of different types now.

Pieces will move around to different pages, but the short links listed on Twitter should continue to work regardless.

The gag-order cases will continue to be one thread. We look forward to legitimate and and reasonable steps, protected under U.S. laws, related to colorful characters such as:

Jim Kiraly (VP of Transamerica), Grace Kiraly (Christ Follower), Tom Kiraly (CFO of Hanger, Inc.), Ken Kiraly (VP of Amazon and a lead at Lab126), Michael Bonetto (a Rising Star attorney), Maggie Desmond (a noble woman, certainly), John Perrott (a Fundamentalist Family Law attorney of distinction), and other people that you'll come to know and love.

190111 Friday — John Taylor Lord of P.I. Lore

190111. John Taylor, Lord of P.I. Lore.

This post will move to the P.I.s Oh Mys! review websites at a later date.

I've been naive all my life.

The predators knew that they could do what they wished to me. I was passive, frightened, and confused. Naive as well.

I didn't believe in Santa Claus. But I had difficulty understanding that some normals lied pretty much every time that they opened their mouths.

I'm still naive. But the rest of it has changed.

On Friday, January 11, 2019, I displayed my naiveté again. The back-story is fun. I've told it different ways before. We'll go with matter of fact today.

This post discusses a P.I. named John Taylor in the San Luis Obispo, CA area whose business model, I feel, is based in part on fraud.

This is the John Taylor, P.I., who uses, or has used, the following website:


The website, and John's Web presence in general, are oddly threadbare considering that he's supposedly been in business for 35 years.

A closer look at what John has been up to over the years might be productive.

This is probably the John Leonard Taylor who used to be associated with addresses on Carlo Drive, Goleta, CA and multiple streets in Solvang, CA.

The identification of the middle name is preliminary and unconfirmed.

If it's the same John L. Taylor, P.I., eager to meet your Santa Barbara, CA research needs, it appears that he's a Junior. He's named, if the “L” is for “Leonard”, after a father or uncle born circa 1914.

Siblings, cousins, and/or uncles and aunts for John L. Taylor, Jr., seem to include Roberta, Beverly, Derek, and Janie.

If it's the same John Taylor, P.I., Solvang, CA area, perhaps these people will be able to explain how the enjoyment that John feels when he commits prosecutables crimes originated.

If it's not the same John, well, one step at a time.

DOB for the John L. Taylor in question is March 08, 1942, but this could easily be somebody else.

A company named Bomar, S.I., asserts that the PDF linked below provides license information for John Taylor. I haven't attempted to confirm this yet.


John Taylor has been a P.I. for a long time. His State of California P.I. license number is said to be 11313.

John Taylor, P.I., has no compunction, it appears, related to stealing thousands of dollars from hapless clients. As a note to John's peers in the profession and to attorneys, read the correspondence from John quoted below before you elect to comment.

Remarks to the effect that John Taylor's letters are protected in any way by intellectual property or other laws will be mocked.

One take-away is that most P.I.s who work on cases for individuals, and who aren't retired police officers, will lie to you and try to cheat you.

I've dealt with enough P.I.s to have a solid basis for the assertion.

There are, to be clear, good P.I.s and I hope to continue to find them. They're useful.

Retired police officers seem more trustworthy than average, but I think that most of them prefer pro-forma work such as process service to anything out of the ordinary.

P.I.s who are willing to go beyond pro-forma work assume, in some cases, that their clients are blinded by anger or greed and try to take advantage of the emotions.

If you don't keep an eye out, some of them will take you for all that you've got. The same thing is true of attorneys, but that's a subject for another time.

In most cases, P.I.s don't actually have “sources”. That's for TV shows. Instead, they buy standard data-broker reports and resell them.

Fair enough. But the profit margin isn't that high. The real money is in field work. And the easiest type of field work is surveillance.

Surveillance is profitable enough. But it becomes even more profitable if a P.I. mixes in a bit of fraud. It's a constant temptation to the lower-tier types.

Unambiguous fraud is one approach. A P.I. can go somewhere, take a photo to prove that they were there, leave, and claim that they spent hours on the job.

How is a client going to prove otherwise unless he or she hires a 2nd P.I. to conduct surveillance on the 1st one?

But the most common case is more subtle.

Some P.I.s press clients to approve surveillance when it's not essential or even relevant.

The P.I.s might actually go. It's easy money. It's not as though the work is difficult or, in most cases, dangerous. The P.I.s collect from $75 to $150 per hour — up to $1,200 per day — just to sit and wait for somebody who might not even show up.

This is fair if P.I.s are honest. But P.I.s, or some of them, turn surveillance into a racket. Here's a favorite quote that's applicable:

It is no Sin to sell dear, but [it is] a Sin to give ill Measure.
— James Kelly, 1721

I'll name a P.I. firm later this year that I feel might see surveillance fraud as one of the pillars of its business model.

A week before Christmas 2016, I talked to John Taylor, P.I., about a possible job for him.

The job was to confirm, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that were protected under U.S. laws, that my parents Jim and Grace Kiraly were physically resident in a house located on Twinberry Circle in Avila Beach, CA.

Technical note: Jim and Grace turned out to be resident in that house, but they relocated to Solvang, CA at the end of 2018. To download a related PDF, click on the following link:


My correspondence with John Taylor, P.I. was mundane at first. Here's one of John's initial letters. Note: John's misspellings are preserved in this letter and in other letters below.

Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:43:08
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: 038-20-8134 — JAMES FRANCIS KIRALY

See attached profile on James Kiraly. Keep in mind that this type of report are [sic] not always accurate or up to date. I ran the two property profiles and the Avila Beach address and the owner is listed as “Kiraly Family Trust”.

The Newport Beach profile shows David L. New as the owner since 2004. I did an occupancy search on the Newport Beach address and James Kiraly shows being there from Dec. 2015 to July 2016.

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

As you have indicated the only way to confirm who is where is a knock and talk at the addresses. I suggest getting some vehicle license plate numbers from any vehicles in the drive to see who they are registered to. There always the chance cars are in the garage.

I don't see his brother Tom listed on Possible Relatives on the profile.

(Note from OldCoder: The preceding paragraph was based on a misunderstanding on John Taylor's part. Tom Kiraly was my brother and Jim Kiraly's son, not Jim Kiraly's brother.)

No charge for this little bit of information. Let me know if further is needed.

John Taylor

John Taylor, P.I., and I exchanged a few more letters. Then John sent me the following. In this letter, John introduces a new character, an “old law enforcement buddy”.

Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:13:12
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: Avila

Quick follow up. I have an operative in Avila Beach, old law enforcement buddy, who took a couple of drive by checks of the address. No vehicles in the drive or on the street in front of the residence. Nicely kept gated community. Vehicles of course could have been in the garage.

John Taylor

It's interesting that the “operative” was able to do not just one, but two, drive-by checks. John suggested subsequently that entry into the complex was so difficult that surveillance was the only possible way to proceed. This, despite the fact the “operative” could apparently get into the complex whenever he wished to do so.

I responded as follows. Logistic paragraphs are omitted for the sake of brevity.

Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:37:12
From: Robert Kiraly
To: John Taylor
Subject: Avila Beach proposal

John, thanks for this as well.

May I hire you and the Avila Beach operative to proceed as described in my Dec. 17 4:11pm letter? This was my letter responding to your initial report.

He'd make two attempts to show the photo I sent you to people in the residence, then visit perhaps 4 neighbors after the second attempt to show the photo to them. With luck, at least 1 neighbor would be home.

Regards, Robert

John Taylor, P.I. has cool informants

John Taylor, P.I., and I discussed possible approaches to the work. On December 28, John sent me the formal proposal included below.

In this proposal, John adds another character to the story, an “inside reliable and confidential contact”.

The “operative” mentioned here is John Taylor's “old law enforcement buddy”; i.e., a retired police officer or the like.

The “contact” is somebody who is eager to spill secrets to the police officer. Like Huggy Bear on “Baretta” or dozens of other supporting characters. Such excitement. It's just like on TV! :P

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:02:25
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: RE: Quote for job

We have no problem taking on this assignment. I'm not sure I agree with neighbor contacts in this small gated community. It only takes one neighbor who is friendly to your parents who would call them when an enquiry is made.

John Taylor, P.I. lies to his clients

My operative is very familiar with this complex and any door to door contacts are reported and he could be banned from further entry. His inside reliable and confidential contact lives across the street from your parents and has confirmed they live there.

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

I would suggest the following:

1) We do a DMV vehicle ownership search to obtain description and Lic. Number of target's vehicle/s.

2) Conduct surveillance on the outside perimeter of the complex to observe the targets leaving. Attempt photos when they reach a destination if possible.

3) Once confirmation is made we can serve documents. Surveillance effort should start early morning in hopes they go someplace. Or if you know of any routine or habits that have. Church, dinners out, etc.

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

As I quoted prior the hourly rate is $ 85.00 plus .50 cents a mile and minimal data expense. We generally request a retainer to start this type of investigation. I leave the amount up to you knowing the cost of the effort involved.

It could be a 10 or 15 hour effort depending on movement from the residence. We keep a log of time and expense. Any unused funds are returned.

Your thoughts?


Um. If John had an “inside reliable and confidential contact”, why did we need to do anything but talk to that person?

I responded to John's proposal as follows. This is just the relevant part.

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:48:44
From: Robert Kiraly
To: John Taylor
Subject: Re: Quote for job

If the “inside reliable contact” *has* seen my parents recently, would your operative be willing to visit just them [the contact] as opposed to the neighbors and confirm that they [Jim and Grace] are present?

Alternatively, would he be willing to negotiate with the “inside reliable contact” for whatever information that person can provide? I'd be willing to add fixed-rate payments for relevant information in addition to hourly.

I added the following P.S.:

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:54:17
From: Robert Kiraly
To: John Taylor
Subject: Updated proposal

Does this updated proposal work for you? Note: Everything will be paid for in advance.

* I'll pay to cover three people — You, your Avila Beach associate, and his “inside contact”. If we proceed, your time for this setup stage will be covered.

* The “inside contact” will provide a letter discussing what he or she knows about my parents' location and activities.

OldCoder continues:

Identification of church would be helpful. That's the primary place where they [Jim and Grace Kiraly] can be found and served that isn't behind a locked door. Price for the letter is open to negotiation.

I'd like, and I'll pay for, any information that isn't legally confidential and that may be useful in litigation. One example, in addition to identification of church, would be OCD behavior by my father, which he's known to exhibit in front of neighbors.

My assumption is that the “inside contact” doesn't have a fiduciary relationship with my parents, e.g., isn't their therapist, and can therefore talk freely.

OldCoder continues:

* Your associate will be paid to communicate with the “inside contact”, to photograph any vehicles, and possibly to visit my parents and confirm their presence.

If you need a specific reason for the visit, I could write a minor but formal letter to be hand-delivered to my parents. This might be useful, actually, as legitimate and reasonable misdirection.

* Surveillance for one specific purpose may be done as well. This part is to be discussed after we see what the “inside contact” has to say.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

This is where it gets interesting. John Taylor responded as follows. Note that he completely disregards the points about his “inside reliable contact”.

John jumps right back to the surveillance part here despite the fact that, if he has an “inside reliable contact”, surveillance is pointless and unnecessary.

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:16:00
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: None

I have received all your email. Here is my proposal: We set up no more than 10 Hours of investigation time to attempt to identify and serve your parents at the Avila Beach address.

We will attempt photographs if possible before during or after observation.

John Taylor, P.I. lies to his clients

You will receive a written report from me at the conclusion of the investigation including information from my confidential inside informants.

(Note from OldCoder: Note that John Taylor uses the plural “informants” here. He's expanded the number of non-existent inside contacts from one to at least two.)

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

From what I understand of your request is to locate and serve your parents either with legal papers or other written correspondents or both.

We keep it pretty simple in this business. It appears to me to be straight forward assignment. It appears their vehicle/s are most likely parked in the garage so we won't see them in the drive.

(Note from OldCoder: By “pretty simple” here, John Taylor means that it would be “pretty simple” to hit me up for $1,000.00 worth of surveillance without bothering to ask his “confidential inside informants” first if they'd seen my father.)

I can request a legal report from DMV for vehicles owned by the occupants of the house.

We set up surveillance at the entrance of the complex and wait for them to leave. They can be served when they reach their destination or upon returning to the house. We will attempt to photograph the event if possible.

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

The following straight forward questions may be helpful:

1) Do they attend church? if so, what denomination?
2) Do they have pets, dog or cat?
3) Do they both drive?
4) Are they morning people?
5) Do they go for walks or other exercise?
6) Any known daily habits?
7) Any medical conditions, use of cane, walkers, etc.?
8) (John seems to have included nothing on this line)

Flat rate for this effort will be $ 1,000.00 to include time and millage [sic] and any data work.

(Note from OldCoder: John spelled “mileage” here as “millage”. It seems like an odd typo for an experienced P.I. who writes up a lot of mileage.)

John Taylor

O.K., I'm slow, but I'm not downright stupid :P

At this point, it was clear that John Taylor, P.I., San Luis Obispo area, was lying through his teeth. But I gave him a chance to straighten things out.

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:26:24
From: Robert Kiraly
To: John Taylor
Subject: Inside contact

John, the following is worded directly, but it's intended to be friendly. If we can't come to terms, I'd still like to look at hiring you for other types of research.

Your associate states that he has an “inside reliable and confidential contact [who] lives across the street from your parents and has confirmed they live there”.

“Pretty simple in this business” is fine, but there is nothing complicated about a proposal to obtain information from the “inside contact” who your associate states exists, knows my parents, and has commented regarding them.

Why in the world would I agree to pay for surveillance that might produce nothing before I hear what an “inside reliable and confidential contact” with definite information has to say?

OldCoder continues:

You haven't even acknowledged that the “inside contact” should be asked if he or she has seen my parents recently as opposed to months ago. Isn't this an obvious step?

(Note from OldCoder: There was no “inside contact” who lived “across the street” from my father. John Taylor is believed to have committed prosecutable fraud.)

My proposal is the one that was sent at about midnight last night. If you'll work out a quote that you feel is fair, you'll receive payment in advance for a job that is “pretty simple”.

I'll also, most likely, pay for surveillance as well. But surveillance will be *after* I read what the “inside contact” has to say.

Otherwise, that's fine, and I hope to discuss other types of work.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

John Taylor, P.I., responded as follows:

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:50:50
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: Search

I will advise when my inside source has a visual on the subjects or any positive proof they are there.


At this point, I repeated previous offers to give John Taylor, P.I., piles of cash in exchange for nothing but evidence that he wasn't a liar and a fraud.

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:00
From: Robert Kiraly
To: John Taylor
Subject: Offer of retainer

John, you don't need to invest any more time or effort for free. I'm offering to provide a retainer. We only need to agree on steps.

I'm assuming that your associate is trustworthy. He's a retired LEO or something similar, right? Most are by-the-book types.

So, the inside source presumably exists and is willing to talk. Do you doubt this, yourself?

OldCoder continues:

I'm offering to pay you, your associate, and the inside source for a letter from the inside source. I'd send some questions, the source would answer to the extent possible, and you and I would discuss surveillance.

(Note from OldCoder: If the “inside source” existed, why was John Taylor so reluctant even to acknowledge points of this type? He just kept dodging them.)

Unless any of the three of you has a fiduciary relationship that creates a conflict of interest, I don't see a reason not to proceed.

It's up to you. Feel free to point out anything I've overlooked.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

John Taylor's next to last letter is pasted below.

Other P.I.s, including former police officers, have laughed at the part about how John needs to buy his police officer friend a dinner so that the police officer's feelings won't be hurt. :)

Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:15:42
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: RE: New Year and next steps

The relationship between a client and an investigator is kind of like a marriage. If there is no trust there is no relationship.

Your strong indication that I fabricated information to induce you to pay me is very insulting to say the least. The normal procedure for most investigators is getting a retainer up front before any time or effort is put into the investigation.

(Note from OldCoder: I made multiple offers to pay John Taylor for his time. Even after I realized that he was trying to cheat me out of $1,000.00.)

John Taylor, P.I., continues:

John Taylor, P.I. lies to his clients

I broke my own rule by doing some initial research and putting manpower into your case. I will take that lose [sic] and take my Avila Beach operative to dinner for his time and effort.

(Note from OldCoder: John's “initial research” was a standard data-broker report I'd seen before and that he most likely got for free as part of a subscription.)

(John Taylor also, most likely, invented a fictitious police officer who'd gone to Avila Beach on my behalf. If the police officer did exist, there was no Huggy Bear informant waiting impatiently to feed him facts about my parents. I doubt that dinner was an issue.)

With that said, I'm terminating any further effort in your cause. No need to respond to this email.

John Taylor

I wrote back and told John Taylor, P.I., that I'd be discussing the fraud which he'd committed online with others. John responded as follows:

Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:04:14
From: John Taylor
To: Robert Kiraly
Subject: RE: Blog review and PI license

I have received your email and forwarded it to my attorney for review. Sorry our relationship didn't work out.


Two years later, I'm still waiting to hear from the “attorney”. It's regrettable. In such cases, I find attorneys to be a crunchy part of a nutritious breakfast.

These days, God, I love it when attorneys cross the line.

You can't touch the straight and narrow type. Harmeet Dhillon, I'm talking to you. The bottom of the barrel type... oh, that's mighty fine eatin'.

On January 11, 2019, I was referred to a P.I. who supposedly lived near Solvang, CA. The city that Jim and Grace Kiraly were supposed to have moved to a month before.

The P.I.'s name was John Taylor. But his phone number was 805-896-1613. The original John Taylor's phone number was 805-964-2089. So, it was probably a different John Taylor, right?

OldCoder <- idiot at times :)

I needed to get the scoop on whether or not Jim and Grace were still located in Solvang. So, I called the 2nd John Taylor.

The 2nd John Taylor was polite, but he seemed oddly nervous.

The issue wasn't that non-pro forma work was off-putting. We didn't get far enough into the discussion for that to be the case.

The 2nd John Taylor indicated that he didn't wish to take on a new research job. His statements were garbled due to agitation.

I asked him if I'd offended him somehow. I think that he said “No”, but I'm not sure.

The 2nd John Taylor hung up abruptly. I was puzzled. I speculated that perhaps Jim and Grace had been calling P.I.s in the area and asking them not to work for me.

Then the possibility that I'd been a fool occurred to me. It can be a useful realization.

I looked closer and found that both phone numbers, 805-896-1613 and 805-964-2089, had been associated, at different times, with a John L. Taylor, P.I.

I can believe in two P.I.s with the same first and last name in the same general area. But the same middle initial as well? Probably not.

Howdy, John L. Taylor. It was pleasant to chat with you, even if I wasn't aware of who I was speaking to.

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John L. Taylor, P.I. in Solvang, CA and San Luis Obispo area
190102 Wednesday — Letter to Bethania Lutheran Church

190102. Letter to Bethania Lutheran Church.

This is part of an initial exploratory process related to multiple churches.

My brother Ken Kiraly's likely trip to Solvang, CA suggests that P.I. Keith Krasnove was correct and that Jim and Grace Kiraly have relocated to that city.

Thanks for the assistance, Ken :)

It had to be you, and not Virginia Chang Kiraly, right? Virginia was back home in Menlo Park raging at a courier. I can place her on Gordon Avenue on one of the days that a cellphone belonging to one of the two of you showed up in Solvang.

There aren't many people who (1) have cellphone service based on the S.F. Peninsula (2) are interested in Haggis Hell (3) are involved enough to try to hide web browsing from me and (4) would have travelled to Solvang at exactly the point when the P.I. said that Jim and Grace had relocated there.

In the whole wide world, that would come down, actually, to just you and my sister-in-law.

Scott Kiraly's phone service is probably based farther East and he's likely to be dead from morbid obesity regardless. TBH good riddance.

It isn't confirmed yet that Jim and Grace Kiraly are going to stay in Solvang. The possibility of a move to Austin, Texas or to some property in California, possibly rural, that is owned by Ken Kiraly or Tom Kiraly remains open.

So, we might need to do all of this over again.

ATTN: Bethania Lutheran, general staff

First, Happy New Year.

My parents, Jim and Grace Kiraly, are presently in the assisted living community at 636 Atterdag Road. This may not be for the long term. My understanding is that they haven't ruled out moving to Austin, Texas, to be near a brother of mine named Tom.

I've included a recent photo of Jim and Grace with this letter. Perhaps you've met them.

Bethania Lutheran is apparently on the same street as the assisted living community. May I ask a few related questions?

Is the Church located close to the assisted living community?

My father Jim prefers what I'd refer to as a legalistic, or study-oriented, Church environment. Grace is definitely on the charismatic side. The two don't always attend the same Churches.

I'd guess that Bethania Lutheran is more on the charismatic side. Would I be far off on that? And would you be able to recommend a possible Church for Jim?

Finally, the couple is mobile, but elderly. Is Bethania Lutheran a good choice for an elderly couple that might have minor mobility issues?

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

P.S. Independently of issues related to my parents, I'm working on a book that will touch on religion in U.S. culture and history. If there's somebody at any level who might like to communicate with me in the future, could you ask them to write to me?

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Jim Kiraly of Solvang, CA and his wife Grace Kiraly
190101 Tuesday — Haggis Hell RSS feed is back

190101. Haggis Hell RSS feed is back.

From January 10, 2017:

Mr. Meow asked for an RSS feed
Mr. Meow request we will heed
RSS feed is what we need
RSS feed is modern breed
Here you go

The site's RSS feed is working again.

RSS is a feature that lets you subscribe to notifications of new articles at a website. Some web browsers support RSS directly and others have RSS add-ons. There are also phone apps that read RSS feeds.

The Haggis Hell RSS icon can be found in the upper right corner of the newer pages on the site. The link is:


If you're using Chrome under Android, select Add a New Feed when prompted about what to do. Lightweight browsers such as UC Browser won't support this feature.

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Haggis Hell RSS feed example

RSS technical notes:

1. An RSS feed consists simply of a XML file that looks like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
<title>Put a title here</title>
<link>Put website link here</link>
<description>Put website description here</description>
    <title>Put article title and short description here</title>
    <link>Put link to article here</link>
    <guid>Put same link here</guid>
    <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 12:00:00 EST</pubDate>
    <description><![CDATA[You can put a longer description here.]]></description>

There should be one <item> block for each article to be listed in the feed.

<pubDate> blocks, one for each <item> block, should list a publication date and time in the format shown here.

The <description> block is optional.

2. To deploy an RSS feed, a web page needs simply to link to the associated XML file. For example:

<href="http://yoursite.com/sandwiches.rss" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml">Click here to subscribe</a>

where the link should point to the XML file.

The type= part seems to be optional but is probably a good idea.

Most sites display a small RSS logo in the link instead of a prompt string. This site presently does both in different places.

3. Adding code similar to the following to the page's head block may be beneficial:

<link href="http://yoursite.com/sandwiches.rss" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Your Site Feed Title" />

4. One tricky part of RSS, on the server side, is updating the XML file when new posts are added. This can be done using short scripts in Perl, Python, or other languages.

190101 Tuesday — Tindeck OldCoder page is back

190101. Tindeck OldCoder page is back.

From Twitter.

Tindeck, a site where I stored music by associates, has shut down due to #Article13. This is a #copyright law that makes no provision for Fair Use.
I've recreated the Tindeck OldCoder page and added Tindeck's statement. To play or D/L the music, visit:

190101 Tuesday — Apocalypse and Catcher in the Rye

190101. Apocalypse and Catcher in the Rye.

From Twitter.

G.L. McDorman @glmcdorman asked:
28 Dec 2018
Catcher in the Rye meets Canticle for Leibowitz. Is there a name for that genre?

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Davy, a book by Edgar Pangborn

BoldCoder responded:
Post-Apocalypse Religious Coming of Age. Not common. Best: Riddley Walker. Try: Still I Persist in Wondering (Davy's world) and Angelfall.
Omit Religious & there's plenty. By the Waters of Babylon. Dear Devil. A Boy and His Dog. Kamandi. Mirai Shonen Konan.

G.L. McDorman @glmcdorman responded:
This is an awesome list. I've never read any of these and they all look interesting, but I'm going to prioritize Riddley Walker.

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Pro tip:

To scale a video/mp4 animation with reasonably high quality, try this:

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181231 Monday — Damon Knight's Why Do Birds

181231. Damon Knight's Why Do Birds.

From Twitter.

Charles Louis Richter @richterscale said:
31 Dec 2018
BOOK: WHY DO BIRDS, by Damon Knight

I was just about to recommend this, when I saw that @doctorow beat me to it. It's good enough to double down on, though. An absurdist tale of packing all of humanity into a giant cube for safe-keeping.

BoldCoder responded: 31 Dec 2018
Packing humanity into a cube is simply the plot. Damon Knight's “Why Do Birds” sticks in my head due to the surreal tone combined with the uncertainty about WTH is actually going on. Compare to Gene Wolfe's “Peace” in the context of these two elements and see what you think.

@Doctorow agreed and retweeted. A retweet by @Doctorow is a good thing:

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Tweet numbers

181224 Monday — It's a Vector Sunset You Bet

181224. It's a Vector Sunset You Bet.

From Twitter.

If I can't go places due to the loss of my life, I can travel virtually with associates.
std::vector is en route to visit his #mother for #Christmas - a woman who is less savage than my own mother Grace.
The #photo reminds us that we're all small and yet part of something large.

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Christmas trip sunset

181223 Sunday — Christmas Tidings on Pixels Ridings

181223. Christmas Tidings on Pixels Ridings.

Plus the first draft of the Ballad of Jim Kiraly, a work in progress that will be offered to communities throughout the U.S. both as a group project and as an entertaining contribution to positive social goals.

1. I'm conducting a small Christmas experiment.

There's been a regular visitor from recently. Geolocation isn't much help in this case. 35° 09'58.0" North 120° 27'54.4" West. It's a forest.

Charter Communications. System shows up as Safari 12.0 running under Mac OS X with a 1280x800 monitor. Shrug.

So, I've blocked them temporarily just to see where they come back from. If I did it correctly, this might help with triangulation.

2. Tip: Under iptables-based Linuxes, a command of the following form should work for the preceding purpose:

sudo iptables -A INPUT -s -j DROP

To block a three-octet (i.e., 24-bit) subnet, you'd use:

sudo iptables -A INPUT -s -j DROP

The effects, for most Linuxes, should be temporary. A permanent block requires additional steps.

As an alternate measure, you can set up nginx to divert clients at particular IPV4s to different web pages, but that's a subject for another time.

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Early form of geolocation
Christmas Toys for Two Kiraly Boys

3. I've looked into hiring a P.I. — with an emphasis on retired police officers — to deliver a Christmas card to Ken Kiraly and Virginia Chang Kiraly. However, I don't think that I'll find one in time. It would have been interesting to see the results of Virginia's attempt to threaten a police officer.

As a technical note, I sometimes have my people film subjects during interactions.

John Perrott, a San Jose, CA attorney who steals quite openly from his clients, didn't like that very much. But the expectation of privacy in public interactions is limited.

4. Some lines from “Iron Man” — the Black Sabbath song, not the comic-book character — are running through my head:

Jim Kiraly of Solvang, CA

Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head

The context being the question of whether or not my abuser Jim Kiraly has passed away, is still with us, is lucid, or has slipped into dementia.

To be clear, Jim is no heavy-metal hero. However, he's worth gold to you. Information is sought, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws. Provide the information and walk away with dough. Not the cookie variety.

For the information that you need to get started on a legitimate and reasonable project that is protected under U.S. laws, including DOB, SSN, and address history, download the PDF at this link.

Similar offers apply, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, to Grace Kiraly, Tom Kiraly, Ken Kiraly, Michael Bonetto, John Perrott, Maggie Desmond, and a number of other interesting characters.

Keith Krasnove told me that Grace Kiraly is, or was, residing at Solvang Lutheran Home, 636 Atterdag Road, Solvang, CA 93463-2604. This is apparently an assisted living community as opposed to a nursing home or hospice.

Additional information will be posted as it becomes available. I hope to employ a Solvang, CA P.I. shortly. He or she should be able clarify things.

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Solvang Lutheran Home
Jim Kiraly and Tom Kiraly hired Michael Bonetto

I mention hospice because one of Grace's associates seems to be under the impression that the move to Solvang was due to Grace's health as opposed to Jim's.

If it's not a hospice, Jim, if he's alive, is probably still residing with Grace, but I don't know what his situation is. The Black Sabbath lyrics summarize the immediate questions.

5. Jim Kiraly (SSN 038-20-8134) and Grace Kiraly (SSN 556-40-1879) have moved around more than is usual for people of their age and Jim's state of health.

Note: SSNs disclosed for legitimate and reasonable research purposes in compliance with Federal laws and in compliance with the laws of one or more States. Attorneys and others are invited to review the Legitimate Purposes list.

The relocation to Solvang, CA might be final, but it's possible that Jim and Grace will hop over to the Menlo Park, CA or Austin, TX areas, either temporarily or permanently, to be near their sons, respectively, Ken Kiraly, VP of Amazon, and Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc.

I've started talking to P.I.s about how to “gather information” (a term used formally in the Gag-Order cases) to nail this down for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws.

6. I need to finish a public message for Jim Kiraly of Transamerica Corporation; Walnut Creek, CA; Retired Active Men SLO; Pismo Beach, CA; Avila Beach, CA; Solvang, CA; and Service Core of Retired Executives.

A message that Jim can take with him, stored forever in his heart, on his journey into the undiscovered country.

I should ask people surrounding Jim, in a step that is unambiguously protected under U.S. laws, to offer positive thoughts and recollections for use in a tribute to a man who left his footprints on the world.

Or at least his footprints on the faces of everybody around him. Jim lived a self-centered life full of caustic disdain, controlling behavior, and physical violence directed at pretty much any convenient target.

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Grace will find it easy to find Churches
Grace Kiraly is hateful unto the Lord

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Bethania Lutheran Church on Atterdag
This church in Solvang looks good for Grace Kiraly

I've pasted a rough draft below. I feel that those who know Jim Kiraly personally or professionally in Solvang, CA, in the S.F. Bay Area, in San Luis Obispo County, and in other geographic and/or spiritual communities will be able to help me polish the wording.

On a related note, Bethania Lutheran Church on Atterdag Road looks like a church that Grace would like. And it's even on the same street where she's supposed to be.

If Bethania Lutheran isn't Grace's first choice, I see other churches listed in the Solvang, CA area. I'm sure that we'll find the right one for her.

If Grace decides to visit my brothers in Menlo Park, CA and Austin, TX, there are certainly churches in those areas as well that are worth looking into.

Jim Kiraly of Solvang, CA

Jim, you may the Law rape
and seek to escape
All night and all day

But there's something you can't fix with red tape
Tape related to the rape
Rape of the law
You committed faux pas
You raped the law
All night and all day

Jim Kiraly Lubrication

Auld Lang Syne is fine
But here's the message for which to pine
Your fate is Lucifer's member to lubricate
But what of those you leave behind?
Cry pity, you'd lost your mind

To sing of Tom Kiraly and Riane Kiraly

Surely Christ will forgive you
but the truth to ensue
Is that in His vomit you'll dissolve
Dripping down to Hell with resolve
To meet the fate of lubricate
All night and all day

Tom Kiraly VP of Hanger, Inc.

The others, they made their choices
They used their wealth and their voices
To rape the law
This was their regrettable flaw

We'll come back to them below
But in order for things to flow
There's something to be said first
For a response, I thirst

Virginia Chang Kiraly, Ken Kiraly's wife, is a noted politician

Not really, though I'd ask your brother Billy
If he wasn't pushing up daisies
To clarify the things of which I sings

Questions that I ask you are rhetorical
If you're bright enough to know the word

I'm done asking, the concept isn't tasking
I'm the one talking now, abuser t*rd
The point, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
Is that you belong to me
It's that simple, you see
Due to your faux pas, you belong to me

Paul Kiraly may wish to get the facts

Jim, honey, sweetest, dearest
My abuser far-est and near-est
Locked into age four
'Cause your father punched your mother through the glass door

Oh, swell, explanations are great, mate
Go and be a jar of lubricate
Why did you need to focus your hate
On me?

Grace Kiraly of Solvang, CA

Once you're on the Earth done, Hon'
You'll be missed, on this I'll insist
Those who fought by your side
The truth to mock and to deride

In a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws
They're my property
In a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws
They belong to me

Ken Kiraly has two sons Paul Kiraly and James Kiraly

I wish you well in Hell, abuser, don't be a confuser
It'll be great, mate, as you lubricate
Bon Voyage, wife beater, child abuser

Crude and creepy type
Sexual misconduct is publicly alleged
You'll find that I don't hedged
Before you go, the time is ripe

I'd like to scratch a 7-year itch
And I'm good with details, abuser b*tch
If you're not dead, let's go to Court
This time, I'll submit my report

Regarding those you leave behind, love is, and will remain, the dominant force in my life in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws.

Have a lovely trip, Jim. Oh, and on your way out the door, convey my filial devotion to my mother.

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Ivan Kmeta owned the green books 100 years ago
Living-room books

181220 Thursday — Menlo Park Mass Delivery

181220. Menlo Park Mass Delivery.

Addressing Virginia Chang Kiraly, a politician and family member in Menlo Park, CA:

Virginia Chang Kiraly
President, Menlo Park Fire Protection District Board (*)
Vice President, San Mateo County Harbor District Board (*)
California Commission for Economic Development (*)
President, Ring the Bell Fund (*)
2181 Gordon Avenue
Menlo Park, CA

(*) Past or present. The Economic Development thing was about a decade ago.

SSN, disclosed for legitimate and reasonable research purposes in compliance with Federal Laws and in compliance with the Laws of one or more States:


Attorneys and others are invited to review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List that is presented at the following link:


The list will need to be revised once Jim Kiraly kicks the bucket due, to be clear, from natural causes.

However, in short, I assert my right to “gather information” — a term used formally in the Gag Order cases — and to disclose, distribute, analyze, and discuss such information — in connection with legitimate and reasonable purposes that are discussed in the list.

These people, the ones who committed or were involved in multiple prosecutable crimes, including felonies, more serious than rape, belong, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, to me.

1. Virginia, Merry Christmas.

Fair Use applies to use of some of the images on this site. Be advised that DMCA requires formal registration of copyright. Unjustified DMCA filings may be treated as prosecutable crimes.

And will be treated as prosecutable crimes, to the extent that I, as the victim of multiple prosecutable crimes that you're involved in, am able to see to it.

2. As a separate note, the two photos of Virginia Chang Kiraly in this post are as old as Hell.

What is that, age 25? Virginia, you're of Ken's generation. You're old now, woman. Grandmother type. You look older than Ken's mother Grace.

You're slower than you were, plumper, hair starting to fade. Soon comes the rocking chair. It's time to update the photos. Of course, one of my favorite photos of myself is, admittedly, from the early 1970s.

3. More significantly, Virginia, the filth Jim Kiraly that is your husband Ken's abuser belongs, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, to me.

Jim Kiraly is obviously headed, due to medical issues, to the undiscovered country. Actually, I figured that a dream which I had in 2016 meant that he was going to go then.

Jim Kiraly Lubrication

I want my abuser, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, before his soul goes to serve in its proper role as lubrication for the phallus of his Lord, the fallen angel who awaits with pleasant anticipation Jim's arrival and the high-quality oxidation-resistant oils that the soul will be rendered into.

But, hey, no need to harsh the mellow. Remember that you're the one who raged last week without cause. :)

Some of this, Virginia, is your business. This is publicly acknowledged.

In fact, you've been one of the key figures from the start.

Your behavior circa 2011 to 2012, the degree to which you dehumanized me, the presumptuous nature of your actions, these factors were part and parcel of the pattern of prosecutable crimes, including felonies, that were committed.

You're a criminal who helped to smash the life of somebody who was in a wheelchair, trying to learn to walk again, somebody who asked nothing of you and had no idea initially of what you and the others were planning.

To put it less formally, you're a self-righteous b*tch who cares nothing for decency or for the Law.

If you can manage to be polite, after 7 years, your input will be treated respectfully, regardless. I trust it's clear that the offer of respect applies to your input as opposed to you as a person.

Did it ever occur to you, Miss “I am Entitled”, that you might try politeness? No, I imagine not. I've read about your career. The people who you've betrayed write to me now and then.

4. Some of this is between your husband, i.e., my baby brother Ken, me, our abuser Jim, and our mother Grace, Jim's primary victim.

In contexts where it isn't your business, Virginia, perhaps reflect on the magnitude of what was done. Then cut the crap.

5. The toy gun in the photo is being held by a 5-year-old who was pretending to protect infant Ken. His parents had handed the toy gun to him to obtain a cute photo.

Try to portray the photo as an implied “threat” and you'll be mocked for decades. But, of course, that's going to be the case regardless.

The mockery part is a promise, Little Sister, as opposed to a threat. Say, did you know that I forced Ken's abuser to sign acknowledgment of such a promise in 2013 and thereby to swallow copious amounts of excrementum meum, sapidum et salubri?

I trust that the taste of excrementum meum, a gourmet delight that I'm told Jim and Tom Kiraly paid in the six figures to experience, was yummers.

I do try to keep legitimate and reasonable promises that are protected under U.S. laws. I'm as diligent as possible in such contexts.

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Bob and Ken Kiraly circa 1964
Bob and Ken Kiraly

6. One more thing, Virginia Chang Kiraly. The rising star has fallen to Earth. I doubt that you have resources other than Harmeet Dhillon to call on.

I wouldn't be able to “take” Harmeet Dhillon in Court, but she'd prefer not to step in your smelly puddle of spousal abuse urine and abuse of process sh*t. Not when the Supreme Court beckons her.

If Harmeet or other attorneys do become involved, that will be fine. I'll offer any attorneys the phone numbers of the last few attorneys that I've dealt with. In some cases, family histories and/or other information of interest as well.

Watch your step, Little Sister. Or, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, I'll watch it for you.

Kapisch, “Granny” ?

7. Last week, a polite courier tried to deliver a letter to Ken Kiraly, VP of Amazon Corporation.

The letter was related to Jim and Grace Kiraly, formerly of Pismo Beach, CA and Avila Beach, CA and presently of Solvang, CA.

Things worked out differently than expected.

8. Originally, one person, Ken Kiraly, was supposed to see the letter. But a change proved to be necessary.

I've been told that most of the Gordon Avenue area in Menlo Park, CA has now, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, received copies instead.

Thanks, Virginia Chang Kiraly, for making things more complicated than they needed to be.

9. Ken Kiraly is my baby brother. Grace Kiraly is my biological mother. Jim Kiraly may or may not be my biological father. Bill Kiraly, Jim's younger brother, may hold that title, but Bill is long dead, so the truth is unclear.

A P.I. in the San Luis Obispo area had expressed concerns to the effect that Jim and Grace might be the victims of title fraud. He added that I should give him money so that he could properly investigate the issue.

I decided to punt the ball to my kind and sensible brothers Ken Kiraly, VP of Amazon, and Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc., instead.

Ken Kiraly's phone

10. Ken was apparently in Solvang, CA last week to help Jim and Grace settle in after a move. But I didn't know that initially.

I only learned about Ken's trip when I noticed that a cellphone with service based in his residential area had visited this site, Haggis Hell, from Solvang, CA. This seemed conclusive. However, perhaps it was a remarkable coincidence. :P

Virginia Chang Kiraly

11. Whether or not Ken had gone to Solvang, the courier encountered Virginia Chang Kiraly instead of Ken. Virginia blocked the delivery of the letter to her husband and threatened the courier in the process.

The courier conveyed the impression of a rude and uncouth woman raging without cause.

For the benefit of search engines, this is the West S.F. Bay Area politician — no longer a rising star — who people feel is the definition of political malfeasance in the area.

Virginia Chang Kiraly

12. People write to me seeking “dirt” on Virginia Chang Kiraly. But I can't comment authoritatively yet on much besides how she behaves in family contexts, her integrity, and her mental state.

Which isn't going to change much. Look at national events. Nobody cares about whether or not a politician is mentally ill.

Keywords: Virginia Chang Kiraly, San Mateo County Harbor District Board, Menlo Park Fire Protection District Board, John Woodell, incompatible offices, cell phone theft allegation, Ring the Bell Foundation

13. I'm a practical Old Coder. When I learned of my sister-in-law's crude and potentially violent behavior, I took the obvious step.

Virginia must have known that she'd left me little choice and what the next legitimate and reasonable move would be. But perhaps she's not as bright as I'd assumed.

I've had a two-page printed document delivered, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, to pretty much everybody who lived within shouting distance of Virginia's shouting and pouting.

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Virginia Chang Kiraly insisted on a mass delivery
Dancing Crowd

14. Or, at least, the mass delivery has supposedly happened.

I have no proof yet that the deliveries were made successfully. It's not inconceivable that Virginia learned of them and took steps to intercept the documents.

The last part seems unlikely. It would probably be a prosecutable crime of some type. But, then, prosecutable crimes are nothing new to my beloved family members.

If the mass delivery, the one conducted by drop-off, hasn't taken place, the next step will probably be snail-mail, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, to perhaps 500 residences, businesses, and government offices in the area.

15. To download a PDF copy of the letter that has been delivered to much of the Gordon Avenue area in Menlo Park, CA, click on the following link:


To browse the letter, simply scroll down. It's pasted in HTML form below.

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Tom and Bob Kiraly circa 1962
Tom and Bob Kiraly

1st page of letter delivered to Menlo Park Residents

This is a minor matter. Whether you're able to help or not, thanks for your time.

L1. Ken Kiraly's parents Jim and Grace are elderly. Presently, they're in Solvang, CA, though they may relocate to Texas or to your area. Ken seems to have been in Solvang to visit them. He may or may not have returned.

L2. A P.I. — one who was involved in the famous Wallace Rice gangster case of the 1970s — has notified me that Jim and Grace may be the victims of title fraud.

I'm not convinced that there's an issue. Feel free to review more about the situation, and about me if you like, at the following websites (two of the sites are identical):


L3. I'm Ken's oldest brother, Robert (the Old Coder). I don't have close dealings with Jim and Grace due to the fact that Jim used to abuse Grace and two of his sons.

From 2012 to 2013, Jim sought a gag order to prevent me from talking about the issue. The funny part is that I wasn't going to say a word.

There were two legal cases. I was essentially a Pro-Per, but I managed to mop up the floor with the Plaintiffs, Jim and another brother, Tom. They spent, I'm told, in the $100,000s but they got nothing from me as far as the gag order went.

The cases lasted a year. There was no Court settlement in the usual sense; the Court declined to be involved.

There were private agreements in which I promised to talk as loudly as possible for the rest of everybody's lives. I've tried to keep the promise. I hope to do better in the years to come.

Jim Kiraly Christmas Love

I need to sue Jim before he kicks the bucket. I have multiple causes of action. Defamation is one option, since this has occurred continuously; there are no applicable deadlines. Protected Action, too, isn't relevant to post-case defamation. I'll at least be able to get the story into the public record. That is what is most important.

Ken wasn't a formal party to the cases, but he participated in related prosecutable crimes. I'll sue him and Tom in due course.

L4. We're not like the Waltons (a 1970s reference). So, I'm going to pass the ball on the title fraud issue to Ken and Tom and let them look into it. I'm not going to invest limited resources in P.I.s for such a purpose.

I lost my home of 25 years, my retirement, and most of my possessions, by the way, to the year-long gag-order cases.

Kiraly Christmas Love

L5. If Ken or Virginia have made any statements to you contradicting the preceding, I'd like to know about it. This will provide me with additional grounds for defamation actions. Such statements are false.

Jim beat up Grace and me. This is a fact. Ken wasn't afraid of Jim, despite being about as large as a mouse, but I once had to smash my hand in a car door to distract the two of them when things turned ugly.

Grace Kiraly of Solvang, CA

Grace, for her part, was never afraid of Jim, but there were periods where she'd lay passed out after too much gin, small children wandering here and there. She was mostly irritated for decades. Jim was just a large violent toddler. I never understood this and was terrified.

For those of you who know who Ken is — he's allegedly the lead developer of the Kindle — I'm the one who taught him to walk as a baby, to drive a car as a boy, and to code in ‘C'; the one who got him his first job; and the one who provided him with housing rent-free for two years.

Google Multiscope. I invested more than Ken did initially in that startup to show my faith. He had to increase his share to avoid embarrassment.

Ken is genius level, just one tier below me, but he's a sociopath. Snake eyes look out from behind a human mask. Beloved baby brother.

L6. Virginia Chang Kiraly is my sister-in-law and a politician in your area. She's often in the headlines due to allegations of crimes and malfeasance. On December 12, 2018, she made raging threats against a polite courier who was trying to deliver a letter about the title fraud. She may have committed a crime in the process.

Whatever. My request is that, if you can, get this two-page document to Ken after he returns from Solvang.

2nd page of letter delivered to Menlo Park Residents

ATTN: My baby brother, Ken Kiraly (VP of Amazon Corporation and lead at Lab126):

L7. I've been told by a P.I. that he believes Jim and Grace Kiraly may be the victims of title fraud.

I have doubts about the P.I.'s conclusions. He strikes me as shady despite a past career as a District Attorney — he prosecuted a gangster in a case that was made into a movie — but you're invited to review his report.

That part is posted on my weblog. I trust that you'll be able to find it.

L8. If I don't receive a polite and clear statement to the effect that there is no title fraud, it will be appropriate for me to communicate with police, county officials, churches, nursing-home staff, professional organizations, past and present neighbors, newspapers, Harvey Levenson, and others in relevant jurisdictions; i.e., Solvang, Avila Beach, SLO in general, and such areas as Jim may travel to. The history of the situation will, of course, need to be discussed in detail.

Communications of various types will, of course, be appropriate, regardless.

Grace Kiraly of Solvang, CA

L9. I'm more concerned about a statement by the P.I. to the effect that a relocation to Solvang, CA, with one or both of the couple now reportedly residents of a nursing home, is related more to Grace's health than to Jim's.

This is unexpected. Grace was supposed to be good for another decade. If Grace passes away, Jim isn't likely to last more than a month or two without her. How much of the P.I.'s story is true?

L10. The closure that is appropriate won't be gone entirely. I'll still have family members such as Tom Kiraly and you with whom to share fond remembrances of 2012 to 2013 and the loss of my home of 25 years, my life savings, my retirement, and most of the books that the boy loved, including the Universal Anthology that your grandfather had owned as a youth 100 years before.

Able to feel enough, cold snake, to imagine what it was like?

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Ivan Kmeta's set of the Universal Anthology, 1890s, lost to the cases
Ivan Kmeta's Books

L11. But, really, I need to sue your abuser's *ss before he goes. Tom and you can wait; both of you are in better shape medically than Jim is. I have causes of action related to all three of you, by the way, despite the passage of time.

Your own legal position is weaker than Tom's is in one respect. You weren't formally a party to the abuse of process cases. Your statements were used illegally. This may have implications.

Jim Kiraly of Solvang, CA

L12. So, has Jim had himself declared incompetent or does he intend to do so? If he has, what individual is in charge of him? I assume that this is the person who will need to be served.

And is Jim a resident of the nursing home or is he staying nearby? Or is he going to Texas or the Bay Area? Or to the property that you and Virginia bought?

L13. Attempts to foreclose litigation on an “a priori” basis using preemptive abuse of process, “vexatious litigant”, “statute of limitations”, or perjury related to “harassment” or “elder abuse” will backfire.

Nothing will obliviate my right to respond to the prosecutable crimes that have been committed. “A priori” went badly for our abuser in 2012. It'll be worse this time.

In 2012, I had no idea of what was going on. I nearly died. But I've had what amounts to 6 years of special education now. It's been a lovely period.

I'm going to get the prosecutable crimes that were committed by Jim, Tom, and others into the public record. Printed copies of the paperwork will be circulated, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, to appropriate organizations, groups, and individuals. For decades.

Grace Kiraly of Solvang, CA

L14. I trust that your wife Virginia Chang Kiraly and my nephews on your side, Paul and James, are well and that the four of you are enjoying a cheerful Holiday Season.

Be sure to convey Season's Greetings to Jim, the elder, and his victim Grace. Include your quick-witted brother Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc.

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Ken and Bob Kiraly, front. Scott and Grace, back.
Ken and Bob Kiraly

Let people know of my concerns for the well-being of our parents and my considerate attention to related details. Merry Christmas.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

P.S. Get Virginia's frothing at the mouth under control.

If polite couriers are threatened again, I'll consider a small initial lawsuit which should make it possible for me to send retired, or possibly active, Law Enforcement to your residence and/or office, in a process server context, to handle things appropriately.

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Merry Kiraly Christmas

181220 Thursday — Letter to New P.I.

181220. Letter to New P.I.

I'm seeking P.I.s in the Austin, TX, S.F. Bay Area, and Solvang, CA areas. This is a copy of a letter to a prospective P.I. in the S.F. Bay Area.

1. I brought up something earlier that I hadn't mentioned before. I'd like to emphasize my interest in the issue.

In years of trying to understand what was done, I've never been able to get clear answers to these questions:

“How egregious was this? And how common does it continue to be?”

I'd like to spend part of my remaining time on Earth working towards legislative changes. But how will this be possible if it's so difficult to get answers that are so fundamental?

My sense is that judges, attorneys, the State Bar, everybody in the system, averts their eyes when the subject of abuse of process comes up.

So, what I need to know is, is what was done in the gag-order cases so egregious that it can't be dismissed?

I'll compensate you and/or others that you designate to comment on the preceding points. If you agree, you and/or they will review and annotate a document.

2. Restated list of proposed steps:

(a) Review a document as discussed in part 1.

(b) What was the 1993 transaction about? If it was simply a refinancing of the Walnut Creek house that I grew up in, what was Harvey Levenson's role?

Plus, what's up with the 25-year gap? That seems odd. Did Jim and Harvey have other transactions that didn't show up in the current document?

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Who is Levenson? Note the 25-year gap. And what was the 1993 transaction?
Jim Kiraly and Harvey Levenson Sitting in a Tree

(c) I'd like to do one standard background check, name of subject to be specified later. This will be to assess your primary data broker.

(d) I may update a number of reports that I already have. Some of them are two years old. So, updates are probably advisable.

(e) Are my parents Jim and Grace residents of a particular nursing home in Solvang, CA? Is just one of them a resident? Can I get a local P.I. to do a wellness check? Have they relocated from that area to your area or to Austin, TX?

Details will be provided.

(f) My brother Ken is located in your area. So is a less important brother named Scott. I have a third living brother, Tom, who was a party to the gag order cases from 2012 to 2013.

After Jim and Grace pass away, I'll need to look more closely at Tom as well as Ken and the attorneys involved.

Kiraly Christmas Love

3. Remarks related to (2f):

Jim was the lead plaintiff. He told Tom that I was going to make allegations of sexual abuse against Tom. There was nothing specific. Jim just made it up out of thin air. So, naturally, my quick-witted brother believed it.

Sure, why not?

Tom Kiraly Dim Bulb

For a corporate VP, Tom isn't the sharpest pencil in the drawer. But, then, Jim was a VP was well. Ken is also a VP.

The title isn't about intelligence. Ken is sharp, in his own way, just one tier below me. But the other two VPs are 40-watt bulbs.

Kiraly Christmas Love

So, Tom filed separately for an emergency anti-violence restraining order. Against somebody who lived 3,000 miles away, who was in a wheelchair, who had lost the use of his right hand, and who hadn't been asked to do, or not to do, anything at all as an alternative to litigation.

The point being to extort a gag order.

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Merry Kiraly Christmas

Tom Kiraly VP of Hanger, Inc.

Tom and I have, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, unfinished business.

One P.I. was able to dig up a trust that Tom was hiding behind. I haven't gotten much further than that aside from Tom's tax dodges and something odd in Florida.

I'd like a P.I. physically located in Austin, TX who might be able to dig into Tom's business and personal affairs.

4. Remarks related to (2e):

Jim's death from natural causes has been expected for years. This is why I feel time pressure presently in regards to suing his, um, *ssets.

But I'm confused about reports that Grace's health has declined. She was supposed to be good for another decade.

To be clear, I feel less sentiment about Grace that I would about a good cat or dog. It's a fair statement. The cat in the household, 50 years ago, was really the only living creature at home that was pleased to see me each day.

Photo of latter figure in the story is attached :P

The humans in the household... ugh. Imagine living with slugs, five feet in length, oozing trails of hatred wherever they go.

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Crystal the Cat was All That
Crystal the Kiraly Cat

Kiraly Scotts is Full of Thoughts

Grace is to be respected for a strong will that allowed her to cope with ridiculous situations for decades. You don't know about my youngest brother Scott. He inherited OCD and other things from Jim.

Scott was considered likely to kill Ken. In the end, they sent Scott to a sort of private Christian prison in a rural area up North.

Grace had, in effect, two 200-pound babies to deal with; a violent temper-tantrum husband and a mentally damaged and potentially violent youngest son that everybody figured she'd never be able to get rid of.

Don't ask how how much time she had for a third family member who was being knocked unconscious at school.

Scott Kiraly was a healthy eater

I think that Scott's weight eventually hit 300 to 400 pounds. If this didn't change, he's probably dead now. People over 300 pounds tend to disappear starting at the age of 50. Make a note that I need to check up on him.

Say, in your professions, plural, is every family alike, in a sense, or have I managed to convey the sense that this household was out of the ordinary?

Grace Kiraly Party

Grace is a bad person. I understand now that, by her own rules, she's damned in a literal sense. She'll go to be one with her Lord, Lucifer. It's the paradox of the Fundamentalists.

If you see yourself as a Fundamentalist, no offense related to your faith is intended. It seems unlikely, though, as you apparently possess gestalt perception.

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Dance with the Devil

What matters to me is this:

Both Grace and Jim are apparently en route to a hotter spiritual climate in the short term. They'll dance with their Master all day and all night.

This will leave me without some of the closure that I'm due back here in the temporal world. So, I need to be sure of what's going on.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

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Merry Kiraly Christmas

181215 Saturday — CodeLicker Chess Game

181215. CodeLicker Chess Game.

From Twitter.

#codelicker discusses a #chess game:
I was immersed in darkness during this game as I turned my body away from the sun. Naivety paid its toll in the den of the tenth troll. Obsidian pieces and checkmate. Don't confuse the fish with the fisherman. It's about who takes the bait.

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Actual game. CodeLicker's remarks were unexpectedly apt.
Chess game

181213 Thursday — Virginia Kiraly Chang Likes Pots to Bang

181213. Virginia Kiraly Chang Likes Pots to Bang.

From Twitter.

Note to Ken #Kiraly VP of @Amazon:
Ken, get Virginia Kiraly's frothing at the mouth under control. She threatened a polite courier and I'm going to use that.
It must have occurred to you that I had a legitimate and reasonable Plan B that was protected under U.S. laws.

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Virginia Chang Kiraly was less than entirely polite on the occasion in question
Polite and courteous sister-in-law

181213 Thursday — Kiralys on the Move

181213. Kiralys on the Move.

From Twitter.

Well, now :-)

IPV4 is Comcast in San Mateo. sfba.hfc. But user's #phone was in Solvang, CA this week.
He looks at Haggis Hell offline. Oops, [he] missed something :-) Reads about Virginia and Olga.

Merry Christmas to little brother Ken #Kiraly or wife Virginia.

P.S.: Ken, are you there to help Jim and Grace settle in? I need to sue Jim before he goes. And I need to have a related document delivered to you and Tom.

The document will be posted here and perhaps delivered, for legitimate and reasonable purposes protected under U.S. laws, to third parties of different types.

As a legitimate and reasonable technical note, did you know that your abuser used to give me updated copies of the address list that he was so obsessed with keeping as complete as possible?

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Ken Kiraly and Virginia Chang Kiraly look good, but it's time to update the photos of her as a 25-year old.
Ken and Virginia Kiraly

181209 Sunday — Are Jim and Grace Victims of Title Fraud?

181209. Are Jim and Grace Victims of Title Fraud?

This post will move to its own page later.

I'm concerned about my parents, Jim and Grace Kiraly. It's been reported to me that they might be the victims of Elder Abuse in the context of Title Fraud.

For those who might be able to comment, here's a link to a PDF that provides some updated information related to Jim, who seems to have relocated to Solvang, CA:

Click here for Jim_Kiraly_181213.pdf

A screenshot of part of the PDF is provided below.

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Jim Kiraly details. Link to PDF file provided in post.
Jim Kiraly details

A private investigator, Keith Krasnove of Corporate Security Investigations, has visited the Kiraly house at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA on two occasions that I'm aware of recently.

The context was a wellness check. A police chief had commented to me, previously, that this might be a sensible check to conduct and had considered handling this for me himself.

The house is in a gated community. The community is sometimes referred to as Avila Estates, but the correct name is apparently San Luis Bay Estates.

Kiraly Avila Estates Research

There are two gates into the community. One of them is a “front” gate located next to Blue Heron Realty.

The “front” gate includes a guard-house which is open until 9:00pm daily. It's apparently the same schedule 7 days a week, but this isn't confirmed.

The 2nd gate is a “back” gate located next to a fire station. That gate uses buzz-through and/or RFID stickers.

The Realtor's office was under the impression that visitors are required to use the front, or guard, gate. However, I was told by one guard that visitors may use either gate.

If visitors weren't allowed to use the back gate, why would buzz-through be supported? And what would happen after 9:00pm when the guard-house closed?

I'm the one who “gathered” this information, to use a term from the 2012 to 2013 Gag Order Cases.

I hadn't had much experience with “gathering” this type of information prior to the cases, but I seem to have improved.

My understanding is that Keith parked near the rear gate, waited for somebody to open it and drive through it, and followed them through before the gate closed.

It sounds simple, but a lot of P.I.'s don't want to go to the bother of getting through the gate, so they'll press you to pay them thousands of dollars for “surveillance” instead.

“Surveillance” means that a P.I. will park outside the gate and wait for hours to see if a subject happens to drive out. In such a case, the P.I. can follow them and gather information.

One problem with this is that the P.I. is likely to lie about conducting surveillance. You'll pay thousands of dollars. In return, they'll go there just long enough to be able to prove that they were there.

Another problem is that there may be two gates, as there were in this case. How is surveillance supposed to work, then?

Kiraly Research Cash

But the real issue is that, if you've identified a residential address and you'd simply like to confirm physical presence or do a wellness check, surveillance is absurd.

In this case, a P.I. needs to just go through the gate and knock on the door. If you ask a P.I. to do that and he or she presses for surveillance instead, you're dealing with a fraud who is hoping to steal thousands of dollars from you.

My favorite gated community story has to do with a P.I. who tried to convince me to pay him for surveillance by stating that he had a “reliable informant” in a gated community.

It was the same Avila Beach complex that Keith Krasnove visited later on and, in fact, the informant supposedly lived next door to Jim and Grace Kiraly.

“So,” the P.I. said, “they're confirmed to be living there. Pay me thousands of dollars for surveillance and we're sure to get results”.

Lacking in intelligence

“Um, fool,” I replied, respectfully. “If there's a reliable informant living behind the gate, why would I pay you for surveillance? I'll pay you to talk to the informant instead. But he doesn't exist, you lying piece of sh*t.”

Actually, I spoke more casually. There's more to the story and it's pretty funny. I'll post the details another time.

Another favorite gated community story is about a courier who told me that there was a special way to clap.

This was in Texas. The subject in this case was my brother Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc. It turned out to be a moot point because Tom lived in a gated house as opposed to a gated community. But we didn't know that initially.

Clap for Tom Kiraly

“Clap with the right rhythm,” the courier said, “and the gate will open like magic”.

I remain literal despite all that's happened. All that I've learned. So, I believed him. When he realized this, he quickly explained that he was joking.

That guy was great. I'd hired him to deliver a birthday card and a bottle of wine to Tom. Tom didn't seem to be home, so I told the courier to keep the wine for himself.

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2016 birthday gift for Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc.
Bottle of wine for Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc.

On December 6, 2018, Keith and a partner, Jackie Hermo, noticed that a door at the Kiraly house was unlocked. They entered the residence without instructions from me to do so. Keith explained subsequently that this was out of concern for the safety of my parents.

Keith and Jackie found the house empty. Photo:

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P.I. bemused at empty house during wellness check
P.I. reports that door was unlocked

Krasnove reported:

“We then went to 6313 Twinberry and spoke to a man and woman. The man identified himself as 'Jim Lawson'.”

In separate communications, Krasnove elaborated that “Jim Lawson” had represented himself as a “real estate agent”, that other neighbors had done so, or both.

He wasn't entirely clear about who had said what. But, close enough.

Krasnove continued:

“He [Jim Lawson] acted very suspicious and said James and Grace Kiraly were going to Texas to be with one of their sons. He then went with me to lock your parents' home. He said the home was being sold for $759,000.00.”

This doesn't seem odd so far. Jim and Grace might have talked to “Lawson” about the possibility that they'd move to be near my brother Tom Kiraly, a son who resides in Austin, Texas.

Jim and Grace have apparently moved to Solvang, CA, instead. The fact that “Lawson” got the two destinations mixed up may not be significant.

Or Jim may have instructed people to lie about his doings or whereabouts. But that doesn't add up, because some neighbors, at all of Jim's addresses over the past decade, have been positively chatty.

But Krasnove added:

“We ran a data base report of 6313 Twinberry Circle Avila Beach CA to attempt to determine whether the resident was 'Jim Lawson', the name given to us by the man who had the keys to your parents' home. The data base report that we obtained did not list Jim Lawson as a resident of that address.”

“We then attempted to verify that James Lawson was licensed as a Real Estate salesman in Avila Beach or any place near Avila Beach.”

“We found that there was no James Lawson licensed as a Real Estate salesman in any area within a reasonable distance of Avila Beach.”

“Since the person told us that his name was 'Jim Lawson' we searched the California State Real Estate License site and found no person by that name was licensed in California.”

Krasnove summarized as follows: (edited for spelling and length)

“The next door neighbor who had the key apparently refused to give his real name. His wife and he acted very suspicious. In addition, he told us a false story saying that your parents were buying a house in Texas to join your brother, when in fact they are in Solvang, California.”


“We therefore believe that your parents may be the victims of Title Fraud.”

Krasnove provided this FBI link as a reference:

Click here for FBI article

He closed by asking me to pay him hundreds of dollars in advance to look more closely at the situation.

So, Tom, Ken, Riane, etc., what do you make of all of this? Is somebody trying to lighten Jim's and Grace's wallets by $759,000? Or is this just a case of a shady P.I. diligently attempting to fatten his own wallet?

Keith Krasnove, FWIW, is an interesting character.

My first choice was a police chief who was in the process of transitioning to P.I. work. He'd have been able to get through the gate.

He talked about possibly just climbing over it. This is apparently legal under some circumstances; if a police chief tells me that, I'm inclined to give some weight to the point.

But the police chief dropped out due to being a controversial figure in that area. He decided that he'd better stick to mundane cases until he'd completed his transition.

So, I talked to Krasnove.

Krasnove definitely isn't inexperienced or run of the mill; that's why I hired him despite signs of potential problems.

But he does seem shady. And he made an unusual threat on December 4, 2018 which strongly suggested that he was a con man.

I realized that my money was going to disappear without a trace. So, I made a gentle attempt to explain to Keith that it might be polite and appropriate for Corporate Security Investigations not to steal from me or to threaten me.

Keith and Jackie made the final visit to Twinberry Circle two days later.

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Corporate Security Investigations
Keith Krasnove and Jackie Hermo

Letter to Keith Krasnove

The December 08, 2018 letter that I sent to Keith Krasnove has moved to the Corporate Security Investigations review page. To visit the page, click on the following link:


140313 Thursday — What Happens to Older Developers?

This post is old but will remain on the front page for the time being.

140313. Jeff Jenkins posted these questions and others recently at Ask Hacker News:

What happens to older developers? Is there a plateau in pay? Is there a drop in pay switching jobs after a certain number of years? Is becoming a specialist rather than a generalist the answer?

To read the original post, click here. Note: The link was valid as of March 2014. However, it may have broken since then.

This is my response:

Developers who go on long enough are expected to obtain high-level titles by their 50s or to retire at about that time.

I'd like to discuss an issue that you might not have thought about: What's going to happen if you lose your job?

Employment in the 50s can be problematic. If somebody is skilled and employed, and has a high-level title or is a specialist or has useful connections, they should be able to obtain a new position.

Otherwise, they might go from well-off to homeless. It happens. I'm 55, my resume is pretty good, and I was worth $1M a decade ago. I'm a transient now. I've got some medical issues, no medical care, and no dentists. Potential jobs are largely unskilled physical labor, which I'm not able to do.

I'm taking a shot at tutoring. However, I don't expect that to provide more than gas money. The head of an admin assistant firm said that I can't be a secretary unless I already am one.

Two people considered sending me to care for elderly relatives, but we didn't proceed. My title at one of those positions was going to be “poop scooper”.

Don't let this happen to you. For what it's worth, here's my advice:

1. Don't fall off of the employment ladder.

2. Become a specialist. Try to remain broad enough, though, that you don't become obsolete.

3. Build a network of people. Make it a large one.

4. Diversify your investments.

5. While you're employed, don't let medical issues, even minor ones, go untreated for long. If you lose your job and your assets, you'll lose medical care too and the issues may become serious.

6. Be kind to people. But don't be a fool. Most people that you help are not going to return the favor.

Regarding specialists, I did recruiting for a while in 2011 and I can confirm that the filters are weighted against generalists.

I've spent about 35 years myself as a generalist. My jobs called for it. The place where I spent most of my career took any project that came along, code of any type. At a dot-com that followed, after the money ran out, I handled all of the technical roles; IT, websites, development, support, documentation, etc. I was able to do a bit of everything.

Later on, none of this made a difference. There are few job listings that say “a bit of everything”.

After the dot-com shut down, 2003, I made $1M in the stock market. Lost most of it afterwards and reentered the job market. Learned that middle-age generalists were not in high demand.

In my case, there were other factors that won't apply to you. It's a story for another time. But if you're a generalist who falls off of the ladder in middle age, you can expect things like this:

“With a resume like that, why isn't he a CTO? Why doesn't he even have a job?”

You'll be asked questions about algorithms that you haven't thought about for 30 years. Or you'll go through coding tests under adverse conditions that don't allow you to show what you can do.

Plan ahead. Understand that the best-laid schemes of mice and men often go awry.

My own resume is located at:

this link

These are my links. Yes, the technical site needs Twitter Bootstrap :P

  1. Technical site (oldcoder.org)
  2. My GitHub
  3. My LinkedIn
  4. My Twitter
  5. OldCoder Nerdcore Song

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

It Happens to Everybody
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